Go outside or go to jail: Top NC Republican targets trans restroom rights

Christian nationalist North Carolina Republican Lt. Governor Mark Robinson, currently the leading candidate for the GOP nomination for governor, launched an attack on transgender women years after the Tar Heel State’s last GOP governor cost the state millions – and possibly billions – of dollars, and cost him his political career over the very same issue.

“We’re going to defend women in this state,” vowed Robinson, according to WUNC, at a campaign stop earlier this month. “That means if you’re a man on Friday night, and all the sudden on Saturday, you feel like a woman, and you want to go in the women’s bathroom in the mall, you will be arrested — or whatever we got to do to you.”

“In campaign speeches in recent weeks,” WUNC added, “Robinson suggested that people who previously identified as male should be ‘arrested’ if they go in a women’s bathroom. Instead, he suggests they should ‘find a corner outside somewhere’ to relieve themselves.”

In a different campaign speech Robinson said, “if you are confused, find a corner outside somewhere to go. We’re not tearing society down because of this.”

Hyperreality,

Instead, he suggests they should ‘find a corner outside somewhere’ to relieve themselves.”

At which point they'll be arrested for public indecency, placed on a sex offenders registry, and likely taken to jail.

A reminder that the trans community was one of the first targets of the Nazis, before they moved on to other targets.

Don't speak out. When they come for you, there will be no one left to speak out for you.

PeckerBrown,

Then piss and shit on him in public. That’s outside, right?

Telorand,

“That means if you’re a man on Friday night, and all the sudden on Saturday, you feel like a woman, and you want to go in the women’s bathroom in the mall, you will be arrested — or whatever we got to do to you.”

Time to trot out this rotting strawman, again? The fact that he can bring this up after this stupid idea has been thoroughly debunked means he’s either ignorant or just hoping nobody notices. It’s a loser issue, dude.

What’s chilling is the “or whatever we got to do to you.” Like what? Public beatings? Lynching? The same shit that was allowed to be done to your ancestors during the time when segregation was legal?

I hope you lose your job and a lot of money, asshole.

Apytele,

That particular bit gave me pause as well. Ah yes, lynch mobs! According to conservatives, one of the proudest points in American history!

Telorand,

It’s an open ended “remedy.” And he said it publicly, which means the Christofascists will take that as an order.

Carmakazi,

He probably means police trying to make the arrest deliberately escalating the situation to violence, so they have an excuse to murder the suspect in a hail of gunfire. Standard procedure stuff.

voracitude,

Pfft, “standard procedure”. Name one time in the last twenty years the police even waited for an excuse to start shooting.

Omgpwnies,

They do somewhat frequently, and make sure that every moment is recorded on body cameras, and that’s the bodycam footage that seems to get through the “internal investigation” phase in record time to be released as copaganda to justify the rest of their extrajudicial killings

Ragdoll_X, (edited )
@Ragdoll_X@lemmy.world avatar

This non-issue is still getting brought up?

Republicans have nothing to show for how they intend to make the country better because all of their policies are harmful and unpopular, so they can only hope that fearmongering about trans people will convince enough bigots to vote for them.

CultHero,

“We are going to protect women in this state…

Except if they’re pregnant, except if they’re rape victims, except if they’re pregnant rape victims.”

Yeah it’s never been about protecting women, women are just chattle to christofascists.

TheJims,

Who knew Grimace was such a hateful bigot?

Blackmist,

he suggests they should ‘find a corner outside somewhere’ to relieve themselves.

So public urination is fine in North Carolina? Good to know.

trackcharlie,

The easiest way to deal with this complete dumbfuckery is to abolish gendered bathrooms and add full wall to ceiling stalls with locked doors.

Please shut the fuck up about this there are real problems to deal with

Pratai,

Very well said.

webadict,

Solves a lot of issues with dependents and access to baby changing stations. Gendered bathrooms are stupid.

CharlesDarwin,
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I continue to maintain that the qons are nothing but a collection of creepy weirdos and freaks. What normal person gives all this thought to where trans people relieve themselves?

I bet most of this is right wing projection. Meaning, the freaks and the weirdos that constantly harp on this would looooove to be able to go into the women’s bathroom and are seething over the fact that they believe the trans (women) found some kind of loophole.

dangblingus,

Many many many many Republican politicians have been charged and convicted of pedophilia, possessing cp, and trafficking children.

MNByChoice,

We really need private restrooms. Some stores are going to large numbers of single-user, or family, restrooms. They tend to be very nice.

I don’t think my stance helps Trans rights, but it does help with human dignity.

CharlesDarwin,
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I think it will help as a side effect. And I agree. I really hate men’s rooms that are set up like a trench on one end or a big trough. And very few American stalls go anywhere near the floor for whatever reason.

I’d like to be able to relieve myself in peace, etc. I don’t want to talk to anyone else, or see someone else hanging brain.

Also, if most restrooms would solve the door problem, too. Far too many stupid setups where you wash your hands, then have to PULL on a door handle everyone is touching, with no trashcan nearby.

MIDItheKID,

I feel like any time a bigot feels so strongly about something like this it’s projection. I would bet money this dude has some big skeletons in his closet, and it’s usually only so long before it comes out. Also, people who think that laws are what stop people freak me out. Like… You are afraid that men are going to go into bathrooms and creep on women and the only thing that stops them is laws? I don’t do it because I’m not a fuckin creep. Like this guys is telling me that if there were not laws against it, that’s what he would be doing? That’s what I’m hearing.

Hazzia, (edited )

For the people who are concerned about pervs taking advantage of it (which is the only trans-bathroom opposition stance I even REMOTELY understand) a better way to solve the problem would be changing our public restrooms from the equivalent of pasting 3 sticky notes over a porn mag. Like seriously the only reason anyone is okay with door gaps I can fit my fuckin hand through is because they seem to forget that perverts can be gay, too.

Mandate floor-to-ceiling walls and doors that actually FIT and LOCK RELIABLY and I’m sure far fewer people would care (except for the whackjobs, obviously)

vaultdweller013,

Arent most bathroom stalls like that outside the US? The only reason ours are like that if memory serves me right is because of inherited designs from the 1800s.

Hazzia,

From what I’ve seen, yes. It drives me insane that we still have to deal with it when all other 1st world countries don’t, but I guess there are a number of things I could say that about

Jimmyeatsausage, (edited )

Gee, I wonder what he was implying with that “arrest you…or whatever we got to do to you”

Instead, go piss outside… which is also a crime that will allow the cops to arrest you… you know, or whatever they have to do.

Edited because I misquoted the guy using proper grammer and syntax. I’d hate for anyone to mistake him for being educated or intelligent.

elrik, (edited )

We’re not tearing society down because of this.

Apparently where we all pee is a foundational aspect of society?

Edit: To clarify, I’m not suggesting we should all go shit in the streets or that public restrooms should not exist. Rather, it’s absurd to suggest that picking a restroom, one that someone else doesn’t agree with, will lead to the destruction of society.

funkless_eck,

yeah it fucking is. People used to straight up shit in a cup and throw it out the window. Nowadays we don’t even let dogs shit in the street.

lolcatnip,

Nowadays we don’t even let dogs shit in the street.

Seattle: Am I a joke to you?

Jimmyeatsausage,

A person who looks and lives as a woman going to the fully enclosed place, equipped with indoor plumbing, all the other people who look and live as women go to for the purpose of pissing in private is a far cry from throwing buckets of shit out a window onto the street.

That being said, this story does make me want to throw some buckets of shit somewhere.

Drivebyhaiku,

Try going out for a weekend and not using a bathroom outside your house. If you enter a bathroom, imagine every person staring at you in curiosity or disgust. Imagine getting hastled and yelled at or assaulted for being in the “correct” washroom because you have a beard but have XX chromasomes. Imagine the cops being called on you. Better hurry and do your business fast and flee the scene because if they catch you they might arrest you, fine you or force you to “prove” your genetalia match what’s on your driver’s licence or ask tone deaf invasive questions about your medical history. If they are bigots they might call you slurs or just arrest you anyway to try and run you out of the community.

Spend a month never using a public restroom. Watch as your world shrinks to being basically just your house as any legthy trip outside requires precise timing so you won’t need to take a shit somewhere risky or perhaps enlist a a friend instead to serve as chaperone and defence to help keep you safe.

How and where we dispose of our waste is actually quite foundational to society. It shapes the layout of our cities, the spaces where we go, our life expectancies and how we spend our time.

badbytes,

Who is gonna fund the bathroom gender police?

ripcord,
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I mean, North Carolinans.

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