dhrystone,
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@dhrystone
I've not (yet?) tried it.
I (still) am struggling at properly learning to document and track things, with text files.
I've read a bit here and there and also read about Obsidian.
At the beginning I was thinking I didn't want to use it because it's not free software, but then reading and reading more I simply realized my concern was actually on Markdown format itself.
Being a (former, now) developer Markdown was an important part of my coding life: README.md and the like.

AAMfP,
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@dhrystone
But I was really struggling between the different environments and tools I was using, each one with its frigging Markdown dialect and variants.
In the end, I'm now struggling with something else: I've reopened my younger self dreams drawer and started learning #Emacs and, specifically, its #OrgMode with its unique and stable, immutable markup syntax... and I'm even working at my simple #DigitalGarden with it!
I need more? Yes. But than I colud "simply" learn Emacs and improve it...

jameshowell,
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@AAMfP @dhrystone
"I've reopened my younger self dreams drawer"

dunno how to make this better

"and started learning "

Okay, like that.

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I’ve been testing it the last few months and still prefer . I created some kanbans the other day and opened the raw md file. It was useless. Contained a code snippet for a plugin to init. That’s not portable plain text. Plus you already touched on all the flavors of markdown. This (Obsidian) is just an additional layer.

dhrystone,
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@greg @jameshowell @AAMfP What do kanbans look like in Orgmode’s plaintext?

AAMfP,
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@dhrystone
Org mode is (also) a task manager: visually in not (necessarily) a kanban board but tou can define your workflow (see Multi-state workflow), you have priorities, progress logging, sub-tasks, ... probably the only missing piece is the visualization, as far as I know OrgMode (too few, yet).
@greg @jameshowell

dhrystone,
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@AAMfP @greg @jameshowell No no. Not interested in this time at what else can do or is good for (since we all know which will lose that battle if ’s full breadth of features and functionality is brought into that comparison). Since someone commented that the backend representation of Obsidian’s in an .md file is just a call to a plugin, I’m curious as to precisely, 1:1, how Orgmode shows kanbans and how it represents them in its own .md files. That’s all. This way we can apples-to-apples compare the two apps.

dekkzz76,
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@dhrystone @AAMfP @greg @jameshowell

https://ryan.himmelwright.net/post/back-on-org-mode-for-work/note-demo.gif

that's typical of how it looks, when i last looked at the org-mode kanban code to produce similar it is 100% plain text

after all the org-kanban package just processes the org files

kboyd,
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@dhrystone @AAMfP @greg @jameshowell This idea of comparing Obsidian to Emacs and suggesting in any way that Obsidian is more featureful amused me, as an Obsidian fan and Emacs avoider, so I looked into it.

OrgMode uses a syntax similar to Markdown but not always identical.

Table syntax is virtually identical, though OrgMode's is much more powerful - more like a spreadsheet than a table.

El Kanban plugin uses table syntax for a Kanban-ish interface.

Obsidian's uses lists.

I prefer lists.

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@AAMfP @dhrystone This is the way.

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