quixoticgeek,
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Researching how to make my own tool holder (having seen the price of them). The mill I have access to uses an ISO40 taper. ISO. Excellent that's gonna be metric and sensible and... no wait... Wtf. ISO taper angle is 8.2971° (relative to the centre line of the piece).

What uncultured barbarian idiot came up with such a number...

Oh right, it's grandfathered from imperial 3.5" in a foot, or a 7:24 ratio. Sigh

Technical debt... Machine shop edition.

PalmAndNeedle,
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@quixoticgeek since you don't cut tapers with that high degree of accuracy required by setting any kind of angles: who cares?

quixoticgeek,
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@PalmAndNeedle cos I need to work out how to set that angle on the top slide. and I can't just use a dial indicator to copy an existing taper.

PalmAndNeedle,
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@quixoticgeek Been quite a while since I've done it, and I only ever made decorative tapers (plumb bobs). But my favorite YouTubes maker has a great demonstration for the home gamer. https://youtu.be/bZxAYw_-JYA?si=gq5wLhXsNxAjCZUg

PalmAndNeedle,
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@quixoticgeek Hum. Hommmm...
Can you still cut a steeper taper like iso 40 by offsetting the tailstock?

quixoticgeek,
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@PalmAndNeedle I don't know. Also it's a shared lathe at a makerspace. If I mess with tail stock alignment, I may not be a popular person...

PalmAndNeedle,
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@quixoticgeek See cold open of said video. Learn how to realign your tailstock. :blobcatblep:

quixoticgeek,
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@PalmAndNeedle well yes. But now we're into the feature creep area of the project...

PalmAndNeedle,
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@quixoticgeek Yes. But all that stuff - dialing in your mill vice, tool post height, tail stock alignment - that's the basic machining skills you need anyway. Kinda like marking out joints and sharpening you edge tools in woodworking.

quixoticgeek,
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@PalmAndNeedle completely agree. But anything I do has to be completable in a day. I have to leave the lathe in the condition I find it at the end of the day. So I can't spend 3 days with complex setups. Anything I can do to simplify operations helps a lot here. I'm already likely to need to buy my own chuck, so I can take the work off and keep it all concentric should things take too long. I don't wanna miss the last train cos I was aligning the tailstock.

PalmAndNeedle,
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@quixoticgeek oh, the joy of shared workspaces :blobcatpats:

quixoticgeek,
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@PalmAndNeedle yep. But given I live in an apartment. It's the best option I have if I want to do machining. It's also a far better set of tools than I might have if it was my own work shop.

PalmAndNeedle,
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@quixoticgeek Those are the upsides. That, and community. But clear out and square everything away all the time is a drag.

quixoticgeek,
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@PalmAndNeedle massively so. Makes fixturing that extra bit harder too. I'm hoping if I have my own chuck, I can always take a part off the lathe and put it back without losing concentricity. As long as i or noone else fiddled with the tailstock...

I haven't worked out the same for the mill...

quixoticgeek,
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@PalmAndNeedle yep. Quinn is my go-to tutor for these things. Am a big fan of her work.

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