@TheRealEricE it's wild to me that studios keep taking the wrong message from successes and failures. Destiny 1/2 were successful in spite of its live service nature because it's Bungie. Some of the best feeling shooting in the industry. Live service is bullshit you put up with, not something to aspire to. No one is like "this avengers game is meh, but hot damn look at all this live service stuff I can play with!" Not to mention you literally have to siphon off your audience from another game.