anthropy,
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is it just me or does things make anyone else feel like an ancient dinosaur trying to fit in with the hip new youngsters

Rusty,
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@anthropy Which is funny because the youngsters don't use hashtags anymore, so really it was always an old person thing, we just preemptively found ourselves cringey dinosaurs :blobfoxthinkgoogly:​

anthropy,
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@Rusty it's funny how it has a social connotation at all :drgn_lol:

I wonder what the best way would be to make things searchable, because tagging does seem like a logical solution from a programmer POV, but with the social connotation it makes me wonder if there are better ways? invisible tags perhaps (just metadata properties of the post)?

Rusty,
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@anthropy The more you bury the tagging, the less likely users are to discover it. I think hashtags are probably the most solid way to tag stuff if you're leaving it up to users to do it. Otherwise I think the best approach is running an AI over it and tagging it in a database under the hood (which seems like the direction BlueSky is primed to go in), although if Nextcloud's Photos app is anything to go by, FOSS AI's just are not there yet :neofox_what:​

anthropy,
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@Rusty haha, I still think that Recognize in Nextcloud needs an update with some 2023/24 neuralnet instead of something probably based on 2012 era OpenCV stuff, there's been a lot more decent things recently, but that stuff always takes a while to propagate through the opensource landscape

I suppose there's the fulltext search if you have Elasticsearch enabled, but that's rather heavy to run at scale. People are still rather bad at this whole discoverability thing in modern society :P

Rusty,
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@anthropy Yeah, we ran Elasticsearch for a while but it kept chewing through resources and crashing. :neofox_what:​ I kinda gave up.

Honestly, I'm still dubious on whether or not decent discoverability is a good thing. It has its pros where people can make a living being content creators, but it also forces a lot of people form different cohorts together who are probably better off in their own corners of the internet. I think Kurzgesagt kinda hit the nail on the head in a lot of ways. :blobfoxthinkgoogly:​

anthropy,
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@Rusty it definitely depends on what your idea of social networking and such is, if you want reach you're looking at a very different social need than if you just want to have interaction with your private circles in preferably private ways. I think there's still a lot to gain in that sense; we could have end to end encrypted high security social networking in addition the current day stuff, so that you get to separate out these different types of topics a little.

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