sofiav,
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People are calling Belt & Road capitalist again 😡😡😡

adamgreenfield,
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@sofiav No, they’re pointing out the asymmetry of the relation, and observing that this situation generally doesn’t end well for the party on the wrong end of the power relation. Remember that “the first hit is always free.”

sofiav,
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@adamgreenfield GS countries are dealing directly with China after centuries of exploitation by the GN and y'all are assuming we're naive? That's incredibly patronizing

adamgreenfield,
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@sofiav I wish there were another, less abrasive way to say this, but when you characterize Belt and Road as a fraternal, benevolent and even socialist project, I’m afraid I’m not assuming anything. This is about securing long-term revenue for PLA-owned enterprises, access to captive markets and strategic ports, and influence, and those things only, accompanied by the most extraordinary contempt for local labor.

Loukas,
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@adamgreenfield @sofiav I think this is also about how 'socialist' has so many genuine meanings, many which are contradictions of each other.

adamgreenfield,
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@Loukas @sofiav Which shade of meaning would you see applying to this project?

Loukas,
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@adamgreenfield @sofiav I'd rather not put words in anyone's mouth. When I say genuine I don't necessarily mean definitions I'd support, just that they exist.

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