grigs,
@grigs@front-end.social avatar

Quick update on my search for data about opening links in new tabs or windows.

Everyone has an opinion
• No one has shared any data
• I reached out to a web analytics expert who has been in the field over 20 years who replied, ”I have no idea and haven’t seen any data on your question.”
• The expert pointed me to a Slack community full of web analytics and data folks.
• I’ve posted the query there and am waiting to see if anyone has data.

https://front-end.social/@grigs/112100949225287946

grigs,
@grigs@front-end.social avatar

If that Slack community cannot supply me any data, then I’m out of ideas of where to look. I have:

• Searched using Google and Bing
• Searched on Twitter, LinkedIn
• Asked three different AI agents
• Asked on social media
• Wrote two different blog posts and shared on social media again
• Asked a web analytics expert with over two decades of experience and author of multiple books
• Asked the web analytics community (pending)

I'm close to concluding there is no evidence to support the practice

beep,
@beep@follow.ethanmarcotte.com avatar

@grigs I deeply appreciate you doing all this research, and I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s ultimately where you end up. (At least, I’d be surprised if there was any actual data to support the practice.)

yatil,
@yatil@yatil.social avatar

@beep @grigs I also think it is the most likely outcome.

ksylor,
@ksylor@front-end.social avatar

@beep @grigs we did run an a/b on opening internal product listing links in a new tab several years ago but I can’t share the data. My guess is lots of places do run tests but can’t speak publicly

chriscoyier,
@chriscoyier@front-end.social avatar

@ksylor @beep @grigs It would be fascinating to know what was tested.

  • Conversion rate?
  • Time on site?
  • Follow up survey?
  • Something else?

I mostly think it would be funny if a company switched all their links to open in a new tab and found their Time on Site metric went up and decided that was Automatically Good.

ksylor,
@ksylor@front-end.social avatar

@chriscoyier @beep @grigs lol there’s only one metric that matters in e-commerce and it isn’t time on site!

ksylor,
@ksylor@front-end.social avatar

@chriscoyier @beep @grigs but your point is solid nonetheless!

grigs,
@grigs@front-end.social avatar

@ksylor @chriscoyier @beep It just occurred to me that the ecommerce use case is different than the context of the poll that sparked my inquiry.

Lynne asked “To all my content creators, content marketers, marketers, and editors out there. What do you do with links on your site?”

And clarified in the comments, that she was distinguishing between outbound and internal links.

In the tests you all did @ksylor, was it internal links? I’m imagining from category or search results to product pages.

ksylor,
@ksylor@front-end.social avatar

@grigs @chriscoyier @beep yes it was internal links.

chriscoyier,
@chriscoyier@front-end.social avatar

@ksylor @grigs @beep I can kinda see how if a person is in SHOPPING MODE they might actually like having a bunch of tabs open. Not data, but I could see it.

grigs,
@grigs@front-end.social avatar

@ksylor @beep Is it safe to assume you all followed the data in your approach?

I’d love hard data, but even anecdotal stories like, “Company X tested it and found that it did increase Y," would be better than what I’ve got now.

ksylor,
@ksylor@front-end.social avatar

@grigs @beep yes as much as I hated the results we did follow the data!

grigs,
@grigs@front-end.social avatar

@ksylor @beep lol. as much as I hate this answer, I'm happy to find someone that says they tested it and found results instead of just assuming it would have a positive impact. I was beginning to believe this practice was an urban legend that everyone had fallen for.

beep,
@beep@follow.ethanmarcotte.com avatar

@grigs @ksylor Yeah, I’m glad to hear someone’s out there approaching this scientifically. Thanks so much for sharing, Katie!

(I would also bet good money there’s still a healthy number of more…urban legend-y approaches out there, too.)

ksylor,
@ksylor@front-end.social avatar

@beep @grigs yeah absolutely. I actually have a browser extension that prevents opening same site links in a new tab to work around it because I hate it so much!

grigs,
@grigs@front-end.social avatar

@ksylor @beep it’s been funny seeing how many responses I’ve received that assert not only that they prefer opening links in new tabs, but that everyone is used to it these days and that it should be the default behavior.

As someone who prefers same tab and consciously choosing when I want a new tab, I’ve been biting my tongue. I don’t want to debate preferences because my preference as a developer doesn’t matter.

Related: I think I need that extension

beep,
@beep@follow.ethanmarcotte.com avatar

@grigs @ksylor The minute I hear a sentence open with “everyone just does”, I lose consciousness briefly, then wake up with several freshly-snapped pencils in my hand, with no memory of how they got there

grigs,
@grigs@front-end.social avatar

@beep @ksylor Your pencil budget must be out of control. I hope you recycle the broken ones.

This may be the best use case I’ve heard for mechanical pencil. Like giving a metal bat to Bo Jackson.*

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