cfiesler,
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The first rule of etiquette on Reddit is "remember the human" - this should apply to researchers, too! This blog post is a summary of our (myself, @michaelzimmer @profprof @sarahgilbert and Naiyan Jones) recently published paper (in PACM-HCI as part of the ACM GROUP conference) about research ethics for Reddit and public internet content more generally. https://cfiesler.medium.com/how-to-remember-the-human-recommendations-for-ethical-reddit-research-8fe34e30e21d

pmonks,
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@cfiesler @inthehands @michaelzimmer @profprof @sarahgilbert I very much don’t think Reddit should be used as a role model for etiquette.

cfiesler,
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@pmonks @inthehands @michaelzimmer @profprof @sarahgilbert That is Reddit’s own etiquette for the platform. I confess I don’t understand this comment.

pmonks,
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@cfiesler @inthehands @michaelzimmer @profprof @sarahgilbert It’s Reddit Inc.’s stated preference for behaviour on the platform, which is absolutely not the same thing as actual user behaviour on the platform (and tolerated by Reddit Inc.).

Source: I happen to be a moderator on a reasonably large Reddit sub (~150K members).

cfiesler,
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@pmonks @inthehands @michaelzimmer @profprof @sarahgilbert An interesting point that is completely irrelevant to our paper and its title since neither of those things suggest otherwise.

pmonks,
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@cfiesler @inthehands @michaelzimmer @profprof @sarahgilbert I guess I’m just pointing out that appealing to Reddit as an authority on such matters is not particularly compelling.

cfiesler,
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@pmonks @inthehands @michaelzimmer @profprof @sarahgilbert It's a good thing that we aren't doing that then!

cfiesler,
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@pmonks @inthehands @michaelzimmer @profprof @sarahgilbert It seems as if you are making a significant (and it seems incorrect) assumption about the contents of the paper based on the title of a blog post. If you read it, feel free to offer critique based on what we actually wrote.

pmonks,
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@cfiesler @inthehands @michaelzimmer @profprof @sarahgilbert I did read it thanks, and do appreciate and agree with your general point about conducting research ethically. I’m simply pointing out that specifically appealing to Reddit’s “remember the human” guideline (as the title and first paragraph of the post do) as a source of authority on ethical behaviour, is not compelling given the actual behaviours exhibited (and tolerated) by Reddit. In my opinion it undermines your (valuable!) argument.

cfiesler,
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@pmonks @inthehands @michaelzimmer @profprof @sarahgilbert I think that we have different definitions of what it means to “appeal to” and/or “source of authority.” In any case I think we can leave this here - glad you enjoyed the paper!

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