mcdanlj,
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It looks like the Mastodon roadmap doesn't yet have anything listed for moving away from Redis to one of the open source forks. I'm wondering whether there has been discussion of Redict vs. Valkey for the future?

ocdtrekkie,
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@mcdanlj SSPL isn't meaningfully triggered by operating Mastodon or even a Mastodon hosting service. So I'm not sure why this would be a critical thing. Also various forks will likely be wire-compatible for a while, so it's likely not hard to swap one out yourself.

(It's also probably worth noting, the public roadmap is often not super up to date, so something missing from it doesn't necessarily mean it isn't part of their plan.)

mcdanlj,
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@ocdtrekkie I didn't say it was "a critical thing" (those are your words not mine) but, yes, given how critical Redis is to Mastodon, I'd expect that upstream would want to stay on an open source stack.

It looks like the majority of the contributors to Redis by quantity of code have moved to Valkey already, so there's a sense in which Valkey is what Redis used to be before going proprietary.

I recognize that the roadmap might not be the first place to find the information; I mentioned that to be clear that I at least looked somewhere before asking.

ocdtrekkie,
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@mcdanlj Redis is open source unless you are Amazon.

mcdanlj,
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@ocdtrekkie Those words you keep using... I do not think they mean what you think they mean.

Some of us actually care about "open source" meaning something, and the SSPL is not it, not by a long shot.

Even though you have made it clear that you personally don't care at all about open source, I'd think you might care that Redis Labs was a minority contributor to Redis and that the people doing most of the interesting work have moved on to Valkey.

ocdtrekkie,
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@mcdanlj I imagine the future would bear that out for sure. But it would certainly be performative to rush to pick an alternative just because software moved to a license too copyleft for Amazon, and the OSI is so corporate-captured at this point it would reject AGPL if it was submitted today.

mcdanlj,
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@ocdtrekkie If you don't like the Open Source Definition, please go make up some other term of art to describe your own values, don't steal the term "Open Source". It means something.

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