DavidDarnes,
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I realise this poll was somewhat controversial, I should've turned on the option to select both (cool that Mastodon does that!). Also not a surprise that most people selected ‘Developer' down to where I posted the poll and my audience.

However I also think that people working on #DesignSystems often begin the design work and end up doing the implementation work as well. Though I could be wrong (cc @beep interested in your Opinions™)
https://mastodon.design/@DavidDarnes/112281559307211608

sarajw,
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@DavidDarnes @beep arrghh I've lost who posted it now, as lots of us have posted similar things - maybe @heydon - who asserted that those who can code, have ended up pushed into the developer side, and had the design part wrested out of their hands. Which sucks.

heydon,
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beep,
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@heydon @sarajw @DavidDarnes This is really, really good, Heydon. Thank you 💜

For my part, I think design systems have generally entrenched a lot of the old, bad divisions between design and engineering. Wrote this a few years back, but I think it generally holds up: https://ethanmarcotte.com/wrote/the-design-systems-between-us/

sarajw,
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@beep @heydon @DavidDarnes

I may already be 40, but I look up to all of you and the other brilliant and caring people in the same accessibility-conscious design-development space, exactly where I'm choosing to put down roots and grow into.

I browse the internet, live on the internet, for (an unhealthy number of) hours a day and it's clearly these very people who could turn around the jank and the inaccessibility of it all. And yet somehow we're not seen not as unicorns, but unnecessary.

DavidDarnes,
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@sarajw @beep @heydon appreciate everyones contributions to this discussion, thank you! I wasn't intending to create division with my poll, just interested to know where my audience leans towards. I very much know the benefits of design and development working as one on a design system, something we did naturally when working on Nord Design System. We all had skills in design and development, we all just sat in different parts of the spectrum

DavidDarnes,
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@sarajw @beep @heydon heh I know that feeling, even without having to be in design systems 😅

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