mczachurski,
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This is a super weird decision. It's like the Chinese telling the United States to sell Apple.
https://mastodon.online/@9to5Mac/112326910615892873

digerata,
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@mczachurski @9to5Mac Nope. Wrong analogy. It’s like the Chinese telling Facebook you can’t operate in China.

Oh wait…they did.

mczachurski,
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@digerata hehe yeah. But they don’t ask Zuckerberg for selling it to them 😉.

The United States cannot accept that it is no longer the only entity imposing the rules of the game. Therefore, the free market will be less and less useful to them. The free market they introduced.

digerata,
@digerata@ruby.social avatar

@mczachurski Selling it to the Zuckerberg? No, that is not correct either. It doesn’t have to be a U.S. entity. Just not a foreign adversary: China, Iran, etc.

China does what you are actually saying. You want to operate in our country? Fine, you have to create subsidiary that is partly owned by the CCP and partly by Chinese citizens and then you transfer your intellectual property to it. See ARM Holdings. And that’s only if you are allowed to operate in China…

mczachurski,
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@digerata I agree China is doing it, but despite this these companies agree to it. Do you think the United States should do the same?

digerata,
@digerata@ruby.social avatar

@mczachurski Absolutely not.

But I support this because I think this case is different. Would any country be okay with an ideological adversary having a direct influence over a large percentage of its population?

It is strange to me to hold the US to a different standard than China.

mczachurski,
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@digerata But that's the point. All the time the US was talking about the open market, free trade, etc. They talked about the superiority of their ideology, democracy, etc.

Therefore, it's probably normal that we expect higher standards from the US than from (communist) China.

But this is of course my point of view, far from the US 😉.

jgg,
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@mczachurski

Apple is not nearly as big in China as Tik Tok in the US, because China never allows anybody to get nearly as big in China as the chinese equivalent.

The US believes too much in free markets for their own good.

Let's not talk about Europe. Please. It makes me cry.

mczachurski,
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@jgg Apple is bigger in the China then TikTok in the US 😉. Apple has 15.7% of Chinese smartfonie market share, ~210mln of users. Also they earn $20bn in China. TikTok earn $11bn in the US.

But Apple is only an example.

santiago,
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@mczachurski Also I don’t see it happening. If Tik Tok is an effective propaganda machine (and all social networks are), China will certainly prefer to keep it and lose the US rather than losing influence worldwide.

I am curious how many of the 150 million Americans users are hooked on TikTok and will use VPNs to exit the brand new Great Firewall of Freedom.

Will influencers be criminalized for posting there via VPN ?

mczachurski,
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@santiago Influencers will have to move somewhere else. The audience is not so good with using VPN etc. Access to content must be easy and quick.

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