joelanman,
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"This means services created for internal users are assessed in the wrong way. Sometimes meeting user needs is not the most important thing"

mm nah. Any service needs to meet user needs otherwise it won't achieve what it needs to achieve. Makes no difference if they are 'internal'

benjamineskola,
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@joelanman I feel like if they're running into that issue, then maybe they've misidentified what the user needs are? And/or there are several sets of contradictory user needs that they haven't fully accounted for. The problem is not the concept of user needs in general.

joelanman,
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@benjamineskola yeh its tricky because without more context you don't know if like you say the needs haven't been identified properly, or that its a situation the guidance is designed to prevent, that the service really isn't meeting user needs

iamdavidobrien,
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Where’d that come from?

@joelanman

bensmithuk,
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@iamdavidobrien @joelanman I came here to ask the same question, whilst steadying myself with one hand and doing the breathing exercises until the urge to kill again subsides.

joelanman,
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joelanman,
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and the service standard does cover internal users, I helped write it:

https://www.gov.uk/service-manual/design/services-for-government-users

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