@cferdinandi@scottjehl Sorry to interject, just wanted to add some context. The state of Oregon (where I live) is only like 50% owned by Oregon and the rest is federally owned land, including: national park, national forests, BLM land, and some other stuff. Not only are our states giant out here but most of our land isn't even under our control (at the state level). (Image from Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_lands_in_the_United_States). This may or may not be interesting to you!