waldoj, 
People aren’t joking. I participate in these conversations regularly. Trump promises to be a dictator who will exact retribution against those who have opposed him. For those likely to be in his crosshairs, it would be foolish not to have a plan B. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/05/us/politics/trump-biden-election-dc.html?unlocked_article_code=1.pk0.-TX0.f56Aecr65d-K&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare&sgrp=c-cb
