sinituulia,
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Idly thinking about keffiyeh and where people are buying them from. While it's been part of resistance fashion here since the 1970s and people have thus owned them, surely there must have been a massive spike recently with everybody protesting. I got mine from the thrift shop over 10 years ago (I have so many scarves, it's an entire hoard) but I kinda doubt they're just on sale in "normal" fast fashion chain stores. How do you clothe all of Malmö showing up to protest in a sea of keffiyeh?

zdl,
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@sinituulia China. I promise you it's mostly going to be sourced from China.

https://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholesale-Palestinian-scarf.html

That's the western-facing branch of Taobao.

sinituulia,
@sinituulia@eldritch.cafe avatar

@zdl I am somehow extremely not surprised. 😐

Edit: also just clicking through, heck do those large chiffon versions look nice on those modelled product photos that were probably stolen from somebody's instagram account

valhalla,

@sinituulia @zdl and the italian translations are lovely, as always.

there is one “Handsome Arafat scarf shawl” and a “Scottish Hijab for muslim woman” that are especially. especially. I don't know what adjective to use, but they are especially so :D

zdl,
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@valhalla @sinituulia Welcome to "AI" translation.

There are so many hilarious translations that come from people who don't know the target language.

Like "qui donne une merde" translated into French that I saw once.

zdl,
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@sinituulia The two pictures with people that I see most often are these. The first one with the very large chiffon looks very stock photo to me, not Instagram. The second one with the four quarters, again the top two (red and black checkered patterns) look more stock photo again, but the man at the bottom left looks more amateurish and Instagram-like.

Not going to lie, though. I love the looks of these, both the rough ones and the chiffon ones.

image/jpeg

sinituulia,
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It's not really that important but the logistics of a mass of people are interesting, any one single simple thing when multiplied with hundreds of thousands all at once gets really complicated and really weird.
I wonder if there's been a bunch of enterprising internet vendors just fully getting all of their stock bought up all at once. Is everybody going to keep theirs? Were any of those made in Palestine and supporting the people there, or is there a factory in Pakistan churning them out?

sinituulia,
@sinituulia@eldritch.cafe avatar

I don't have any conclusions here except free Palestine, don't just toss yours if you got one, fuck Amazon etc. and I personally think they look really neat and am happy to see so many people wearing them and protesting. Yeah.

valhalla,

@sinituulia I have a memory from a few months ago of stumbling on a small shop run by a woman of Palestinian origin in Rome that sold those, other garments and jewelry. I may have found it on the anarchist fediverse instance for Rome (of course there is one. and since it's an Italian anarchist fediverse instance it's named after a vegetable).

And now of course a) I can't find it b) I'm starting to doubt my memories :D

So, if somebody from puntarella.party reads this and also remembers that shop, please let me know!

(I'd expect them to be sold out, these days, I'd just love to know whether how much I'm misremembering things)

Triffen,
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@valhalla @sinituulia I'm also here for the vegetables. Because of... I don't know, Gianni Rodari? That's the only association with vegetables I can dig out of my (also undoubtedly flawed) memory.

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