uliwitness,
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I take it the “run macOS on an iPad” situation is still “should technically be possible, some people managed it, but a truckload of work to make work in practice”? Or is there something like the jailbreak installers of old that make it risky but straightforward?

oktawian,
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@uliwitness with 8 and 16GB of RAM it will be a rough ride for pro software even if every obstacle is cleared

morgant,
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@oktawian @uliwitness Apple seem to make Logic & Final Cut run pretty well (though I realize the OS is lighter-weight and memory management different.) Also, Apple Silicon chips really do have very fast storage access, so use of swap is almost undetectable in most use cases.

oktawian,
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@morgant @uliwitness If you want to run one Mac app at a time it may work. Maybe.

True multitasking with apps like Xcode or Android Studio, add browser with heavier web app from Atlassian and the iPad is dead.

Using swap is not free it will eventually destroy your disk. If it wasn’t soldered in I wouldn’t care as much, but it is.

uliwitness,
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@oktawian @morgant Correct me if I'm wrong, but apart from the touch screen vs. keyboard thing and a few ports, isn’t an M1 iPad Pro basically the same hardware as an M1 MacBook ? It’s the same SoC, and therefore the same storage controller. They could be skimping on the actual flash memory for the iPad I guess, but I've not seen any indication anywhere it's not the same memory as a MacBook.

oktawian,
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@uliwitness It is. 100%!

The thing is 1TB iPad „Pro” caps at 16GB of RAM whereas MacBook can be configured with larger amounts.

I’m of the opinion that 8GB or even 16GB is definitely not enough for serious PRO multitasking.

MacBooks will kill SSD too with heavy swapping. And it’s soldered too.

morgant,
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@oktawian @uliwitness I would certainly never suggest an iPad as a primary device for high-end video or audio editing, but they perform very well for what would have been considered moderate just a few years ago and high-end just a few years prior to that. However, I highly suspect that we have different backgrounds, experiences, and standards.

morgant,
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@oktawian @uliwitness I have spent the last year using a 2.2GHz dual-core i7 MacBook Air with 8GB RAM (soldered) as my primary workstation and it's not as bad as one might think. I do run a pretty light-weight OS () and X11 WM (), but the former isn't the most I/O optimized OS and even it's barely noticeable when it starts swapping. I always oversize SSD storage though, to delay failure through wear-leveling.

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