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    matadan,
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    @krzyzanowskim I’m coming to the conclusion that Kotlin Multiplatform is the way forward. Too early to say for definite but looks promising. You have value semantics, memory management, coroutines and a declarative UI framework.

    ctietze,
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    @krzyzanowskim If you phrase it that way, what comes to mind is this: could this in part be because of the classic "unknown unknowns", here: of the Rust ecosystem that you have less experience with, that make it appear more straightforward than Swift for which you can name 100 things that suck on a whim?

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  • ctietze,
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    @krzyzanowskim Yeah (1) is a good point if all you need is Cocoa/AppKit API. (Which is everyone of us :))

    Is (2) relevant for an app you want to make? I haven't had trouble with that, yet.

    (3) -- I'm more fighting with SwiftUI and TextKit 2 than actors. Maybe I'm missing something. Does using Rust and bypassing all the Swift Concurrency stuff completely actually solve this issue for you?

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    @krzyzanowskim @ctietze I haven't realized there are Rust bindings for Cocoa! How does it look? 👀

    ctietze,
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    @mackuba @krzyzanowskim The surface API doesn't look too shabby https://github.com/ryanmcgrath/cacao

    catlan,
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    @ctietze @mackuba @krzyzanowskim with Mojo 🔥 out and about I feel we should give pythons cocoa binding (PyCocoa) another chance!

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    @catlan @mackuba @krzyzanowskim Objective-Zig when?

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