randomgeek,

Saw a questionable info-meme being shared repeatedly. Decided to add my thoughts. I'll save you the click:

I'd add "critical thinking and information literacy," especially to better analyze information presented to you in infographic or meme format. What did they include? What did they exclude? What biases do you see laid out before you? How many of them are deliberate and how many do you think are subconscious? Should you treat them differently?

and of course "wtf is supposed to be going on with that 'survival skills' icon"

Hire me and you could be working with this ray of sunshine!

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/brianwisti_subjects-that-should-be-mandatory-in-schools-activity-7085302697905557504-bOuJ?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop

cinebox,

@randomgeek swap coding for computer literacy. The average person doesn’t need to know Python but it would be nice if they understood basic file management or how to spot a phishing link

randomgeek,

@cinebox I started there, and my brain kept noticing more and more questionable choices.

Social etiquette is female-coded. but public speaking is male?

It's why I ended up at "critical thinking."

kawaiipunk,
@kawaiipunk@sunbeam.city avatar

@randomgeek no arts, language, literature or science allowed sorry

antijingoist,

@randomgeek They're such individualists they have zero understanding of specializations and how people meeting the needs of others can help society as a whole

mjgardner, (edited )
@mjgardner@social.sdf.org avatar

@antijingoist I think you’re confusing “individualism” with “independence,” and also smuggling a false dichotomy between both and cooperation.

People can and do cooperate toward mutually-beneficial ends while respecting each others’ individual rights and independent judgment. In fact, that’s the only form of collective action that doesn’t end in bloodshed.

/cc @randomgeek

antijingoist,

@mjgardner

Oh I'm sorry, I'm only commenting on a silly meme.

Did I touch a nerve?

@randomgeek

mjgardner,
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@antijingoist Nope. Bye.

jacobydave,
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@randomgeek The more I hear from outside LinkedIn, the more happy I am that I don't engage with LinkedIn.

randomgeek,

@jacobydave A wise choice. I only log in when I'm job hunting.

It has been a rough year, to say the least.

jacobydave,
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@randomgeek I don't have a particular objection to show the practical math of taxes as part of the curriculum, but the bigger problem is that there are lobbies, including TurboTax, to make our process unnecessarily complex, and changing that is a greater priority than changing the curriculum.

randomgeek,

@jacobydave I had very similar thoughts on seeing "taxes"

jacobydave,
@jacobydave@mastodon.xyz avatar

@randomgeek Having been bullyied in school, I am intensely on both sides of the issue when it comes to self-defense. The deciding anti vote in my head follows from how my PE experience made me hate myself, physical exertion and my fellow man, and I don't see how adding actual ass-kicking to the curriculum would help things.

jacobydave,
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@randomgeek Two of the first courses in college (in my experience) are "this is how you write essays" and "this is how you speak in front of people", and I find both to be valuable. I have no problem in principle with a course on "this is how you comfortably and coherently express yourself in front of other" but wonder what you kick out to add it.

jacobydave,
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@randomgeek I stopped asking my children about their HS "Computing" courses because they were more about Photoshop and PowerPoint.

Then I began to accept that how they (Gen-Z to Millenial socual users) use computers is not how I ( Gen-X computer programmer) use a computer. Part of me thinks that automating parts of your life is a good thing that could be taught, but there's a lot of it that just doesn't fit unless you're like me.

jacobydave,
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@randomgeek That's the same part of me that won't watch Silicon Valley because I know I'll drop into undignified anti-Python rants that nobody (not even me) wants to hear. So I cultivate a strong "I have no opinion" position on what schools offer in terms of computer education.

randomgeek,

@jacobydave Silicon Valley was about as funny as a Dilbert strip i.e. it amused me until I realized that technically I was laughing at the wrong bits, which I could tell because only did running gags on the most tedious of tropes.

randomgeek,

@jacobydave so clearly I'm in the betting pool for "random SV writer turns out to be fascist"

jacobydave,
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@randomgeek Oh, I'm not gonna take that money. You've got all but a sure thing there.

jacobydave,
@jacobydave@mastodon.xyz avatar

@randomgeek "Survival Skills". OMG, how do you even parse that?

I mean, I was a scout. I can use a map and compass to orient my way across the wilderness. I have never needed it since I left scouting.

It seems like people who really cheer for "Survival Skills" are actively cheering for the downfall of the civilization that keeps most people from needing them.

jacobydave,
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@randomgeek We know the Social Etiquitte (for the most part) because we know how to not be a dick to others and know how others can be a dick to you.

One thing I see is "man walks on the curb side of the sidewalk". Used to be, that'd mean the man gets splashed, not the woman y her dress, when the beer wagon comes down and splashes out the shit-filled puddle.

randomgeek,

@jacobydave I see "show old people the door" which is of course open to interpretation

jacobydave,
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@randomgeek I think the whole "holding the door open for others" is flux as a point of Etiquette, because some see it as an accusation that they're to frail and feminine to understand how doors work (or something else), so the most generally polite thing I've figured out is to help when they seem to want it, not slam doors in people's faces like a damn asshole, and hold doors open if I know them, they're not too far behind me, and I believe they'd appreciate it.

randomgeek,

@jacobydave "always use protection when entering the mosh pit"

jacobydave,
@jacobydave@mastodon.xyz avatar

@randomgeek Right. I saw a TikTok yesterday where a woman was "A friend came to the show right from work and lost a ballet flat three seconds into the mosh" and "every time I wore a dress into the pit, it was a bad time", so I guess those survival skills are worth communicating.

jacobydave,
@jacobydave@mastodon.xyz avatar
randomgeek,

@jacobydave seems like an important lesson for class.

jacobydave,
@jacobydave@mastodon.xyz avatar

@randomgeek The good news is that I got that son of a bitch in a headlock three seconds in, only got a bloody nose, and nobody gave me trouble the rest of the year.

randomgeek,

@jacobydave thought we were still in the etiquette class for a second and I went “yep mosh pits be like that”

jacobydave,
@jacobydave@mastodon.xyz avatar

@randomgeek Most of the pits I've been in would pick you up if you fell. That's etiquette.

One Soul Asylum show, I saw a cute girl with a nose ring before they were cool, standing mid-pit waiting for the show to start and thought (but didn't say) "oh, honey, that's the LAST place you wanna be", and once they started moving, the look of fear...

c0debabe,

@randomgeek swap car repair for bike repair 🤔

randomgeek,

@c0debabe swap "public speaking" for something less dedicatedly allistic, like "communication"

c0debabe,

@randomgeek yes agreed

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