What are your thoughts on DEI?

I would love to hear your experiences and your thoughts on this topic. If you have pro-DEI or anti-DEI positions, I will read them, consider them and respect your right to your own opinion.

My position is that I’m anti-DEI as I consider it a form of discrimination against white males and also consider it very deceptive. I’m open to discussing it!

blahsay,

There’s better options for helping the disadvantaged than resorting to racism.

Rather than hold up a color chart why not judge based on economic factors? A person’s income,parental income, education level, tax returns etc are far more accurate indicators.

Dei is institutional racism and ugly as hell.

Mickey7,

**“why not judge based on economic factors” **- completely agree with this. Judging by the tint of your skin is insane. But as an employer I would give more value to someone who succeeded coming from a poor economic situation over someone who did not. Everything is equal but one started working part time during school at 14, working full time in the summers, vs. a kid who never had or needed a job during their years in school. I’ll hire the kid who started working at 14

Boinkage,

Tell me you don’t understand institutional racism without telling me you don’t understand institutional racism.

runswithjedi,

DEI is about including everyone, white males too. If there is something that is excluding white males, it isn’t DEI.

themeatbridge,

When you’re used to privilege, equality feels like oppression.

uglybaldmofo,

To say that it’s equality is actually funny to me, considering that to get into a certain university in my state the white applicants need SAT scores that are 200 points higher than the black applicants. That involves a lot of extra study and even a certain lifestyle. And this is the major issue that I have with DEI – it’s like giving an honorary degree to a ‘diverse’ candidate, then putting pressure on a company to hire this candidate, and then inventing a position for this candidate, and then promoting this candidate to a leadership position.

That is not ‘equality’. To have someone who comes into a tech position with no relevant experience and no relevant knowledge, because she has a vagina or has black skin, is the opposite of equality

themeatbridge,

That’s quite an impressive strawman you’ve constructed in your mind, there.

jeffw,

Source on your claim about SAT scores?

uglybaldmofo,

So, I would like to share an experience from my job that has various ‘affinity groups’ for EVERYONE except white males. We have affinity groups for Arabs, African Americans, Asians, Latino’s, Women, LGBTQ, etc, but none for white males.

This is rather discriminatory because the leadership at our site, as per one of our HR representatives, is 50% ‘non-white’ and I would say that for the non-leadership portion of the company, it’s about 40% white, with probably 60% being women. My point being, there’s not really that many white males in this building, especially in non-leadership positions.

I’m somewhat offended by this considering that at these affinity group meetings, leadership interacts with employees and tells them ways to get promoted, etc. It’s quite discriminatory, IMO.

runswithjedi,

So start one yourself. An “allies” group is very common. Be the change you want to see!

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