ZeeXIII,

Hello from Baghdad. Thanks for hosting. This fediverse needs some getting used to.

liaizon,
@liaizon@wake.st avatar

@ZeeXIII @TheDude Hello Zee! How did you discover the fediverse? Just through the reddit fiasco? Hello to Baghdad from Berlin!

introvrt2themax,

Yay for the new icon! Love the satisfied seal.

SpaceBird,

Greetings from about 5 hours southeast, thanks for setting up this server! Should be interesting to see what happens over the next few days.

Digital_Eclipse,

Hello! I can finally kick my reddit habit. I have a mastodon account, so I'm already familiar with federation. But these two formats are like very different flavors of ice cream, you know? Happy to be here.

Je peux parler francais aussi. Merci pour l'instance :)

redawl,

Thanks Mr. Dude for this instance. I will try not to be a lurker like I usually am, and help contribute to the community.

I am an early (I think) refugee from reddit. Can anyone recommend some communities to join? Still confused about the whole federated thing. Tried Mastodon a while back, but as someone who never used twitter I was pretty confused.

kamenoko,

Thank you Mr. Dude. This Bluenoser thanks you for your effort!

scrollbars,

Thank you for hosting! I'm trying to branch out from the main instance since they're under so much load right now. It looks like there are already some good communities on here, too.

deva,

This all is cool, but I'm sad the biggest instance by far is admined by tankies. Like this guy gets quickly banned for posting articles about North Korea and Russia in the world news community.

I really don't see this popping off if new instances aren't willing to block the "main" instance.

imaqtpie,
@imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works avatar

He didn't get banned that quickly, he basically called out tankie propaganda for a week before they banned him.

The beauty of this platform is that we actually can block the main instance and also create as many world news communities of our own as we want. It won't take long before the OG communities are outnumbered anyway.

deva,

The admin could block it, but it seems already too popular to block given no one else has blocked it yet and most users are on it.

imaqtpie,
@imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works avatar

They have already run out of server capacity. They have fewer than 10k users. There will almost certainly be another instance that becomes the default if the reddit exodus occurs as expected.

Also, I haven't seen any instances of lemmy.ml being super aggressive or restrictive. Lemmygrad.ml is blocked by most instances.

If I'm being completely honest, I'll take communists over fascists 10 times out of 10. A leftist backbone is a convenient shield against the alt-right cancer that tends to inhabit these fringe internet communities.

deva,

I’d rather reject all genocidal maniacs instead of acting like I need to prefer one over the other for practicality.

imaqtpie,
@imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works avatar

I haven't seen anyone advocating for genocide but good for you, you're against genocide

deva,

https://raddle.me/f/lobby/96713/heads-up-the-tankie-behind-lemmy-ml-got-banned-from-r

dessalines AKA parentis_shotgun on reddit was banned by the r/socialism mod team for posting fascist LaRouchite propaganda and then praising the reactionary author, who is also a climate change denier who writes conspiracy theory books about the "NWO". He demanded to be unbanned but then made things even worse in their modmail by saying “putting Uyghurs in concentration camps aint cultural genocide because they're extremists”, among other awful things. He refused to apologize for using fascist literature to condemn Uyghurs, and instead kept defending it, so they aint unbanning him.

That’s the admin of the main instance. Advocating genocide.

imaqtpie,
@imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works avatar

So I can see that he is interested in and possibly a fan of Lyndon LaRouche, who was a bit of a wackjob but also a free thinker. And he questions whether the treatment of Uyghurs is actually a genocide, which I dont agree with, but is within the realm of rational inquiry. There are no unbiased sources regarding that issue, its all propaganda from both sides. And I can also see that he refused to apologize to the mods of r/socialism.

At no point did you provide evidence that someone was advocating for genocide.

borari,
@borari@sh.itjust.works avatar

If I’m being completely honest, I’ll take communists over fascists 10 times out of 10. A leftist backbone is a convenient shield against the alt-right cancer that tends to inhabit these fringe internet communities.

100% agreed. While I'm glad the more edgelord/4chan style of instance is blocked here, I appreciate and value the leftist ideals the Lemmy project seems to have been built on, because without them this federated platform probably wouldn't exist as it currently does.

The lemmy[.]ml admins have definitely handed out lengthy temp bans to people from their own instance who were posting a lot of pro-Russia, pro-China, more authoritarian left type of content for getting combative/disrespectful in comments. I don't see why anyone cares what kind of political viewpoints a site admin has as long as they moderate fairly and don't let their internal bias lead to them playing favorites when they should be impartial. The modlog being public is a great way for the community at large to audit that type of thing, and is one of the many things I think the Lemmy project has implemented much better than Reddit ever did.

liontigerwings,

What's a tankie?

imaqtpie,
@imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works avatar

A communist who is supportive of authoritarian regimes like Stalin/Mao zedong. They tend to think in terms of opposing capitalism, and therefore any regime which challenges US hegemony can be justified regardless of horrific human rights abuses.

awdsns,

Hi! Thanks for setting up this instance! I've also been advising newcomers to sign up here since you seem to have the resources for it.

However, I have been seeing some weird behavior in some federated posts: vote discrepancies and also comments not showing up.

E.g. compare
https://feddit.de/post/764358 with
https://sh.itjust.works/post/9023 (same post federated here)

All votes and comments are missing. Now I don't expect Lemmy to be 100% bug-free of course, but this seems serious. Could you please investigate this?

itzpea,

I'm new here, to this Lemmy thing as well as this 'instance'? (I feel like I'm using hip new words).

I think I have managed to subscribe to a boardgame community that is hosted on !boardgames feddit.de- I can't see the comments and such when viewing from here as well.

I'm also having difficulty finding and adding this solo boardgame community because I can't get it to show up in the search box. Is this a Lemmy thing or an instance thing?

borari,
@borari@sh.itjust.works avatar

I was reading comments on another post that were talking about issues regarding pulling in the post/comment history of a community on another instance prior to a user subscribing to the community on their own "home" instance.

I think I have managed to subscribe to a boardgame community that is hosted on !boardgames feddit.de- I can’t see the comments and such when viewing from here as well.

You should be able to click on the link in your "Subscribed" panel on the right of the page to go to the specific community page. Your browser URL bar and the page header should still show that you are on sh.itjust.works, since you are indeed still here. On the backend, the sh.itjust.works server is talking to the feddit.de server and saying "Hey, I have a user that wants to see content from this boardgame community you have. Can you send me any new posts for that community?".

Here's where I get fuzzy. I am under the impression that while posts themselves will federate from the main instance to the database for this instance, until someone here interacts with them, meaning they upvote, downvote, or comment on it, comments won't propagate? I might be completely wrong here though.

If I'm wrong about any of this please let me know!

Klaymore,
@Klaymore@sh.itjust.works avatar

If an account here is subscribed to a community, and someone posts a comment in that community, then it will be federated to this server. It just won't go back and federate old comments unless someone copies the comment link and searches for it.

justpassingby, (edited )

I think the issue with feddit.de is that, "I think", it is blocking the federetaion with this server. I may be totally wrong, since I am digging how this works for like 1h, but I can see this server as "blocked" here: https://lemmymap.feddit.de/ I wish there was a list instead of the map because it is unreadable, but you can search for sh.itjust.works there. Remember to select "blocked" first in the bottom left.

EDIT: Incorrect information. Read comments below.

itzpea,

So if it is blocking us, then the only solutions on my end would be:

  1. Try to reach out to someone and see if it could be unlocked/if it was intentional or
  2. Sign up with another instance where the main communities I want aren't blocking them

I'm not very network/backend/whateverisgoingonhere savvy.

manifex,

I think the most appropriate way would be for @TheDude to reach out to their team and request federation.

TheDude,
TheDude avatar

Hey, man. There's a beverage here.

justpassingby,

Yes (I think). The two approaches above are the ones that comes to mind. Again, I am super-new here so I really hope I am not misleading you ^^; And what @manifex just commented (reaching out ot the admin).

borari,
@borari@sh.itjust.works avatar

Commenting just to add that you can go to the /instances endpoint of any Lemmy server to see the instances they are and are not federated with. The feddit.de list can be seen here. Their list shows that they are federated with us.

justpassingby,

Thanks for the link! It is much easier to see the federated servers there.

plum,

Hello from western Canada! I just wanted to pop in and say thank you for creating this instance - feels like a great place to start my Lemmy journey.

manifex,

📈

Barbarian,
@Barbarian@sh.itjust.works avatar

I checked the user count compared to an hour ago and we have 40 new users on the instance. Lol. This is really accelerating.

TheDude,
Barbarian,
@Barbarian@sh.itjust.works avatar

So, how many users until your beast of a machine actually does catch fire?

TheDude,

Not sure yet but I'm certain we'll find out next week

smdb,

Hi from the Netherlands and thanks for running this!

imaqtpie,
@imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works avatar

Just gonna leave this here for newcomers. I had no idea how this whole fediverse thing worked until I read this comment.

https://lemmy.world/comment/20357

pillow,

Thank you! Tuning in from east coast USA. Does the Lemmy community overall have a plan for the inevitable dupe communities across instances?

boopeditandnow,

I think the fragmentation is a feature; if a server wants to have a Reddit moment and take their ball and go home, the other communities are all still there. Getting the UI to combine the communities visually would be nice, though. I'm sure we'll get there eventually.

imaqtpie,
@imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works avatar

I asked the same question yesterday and ultimately found this post.

lemmy.ml/post/1163258

It seems like it’s going to have to evolve organically. Federating individual communities might work, like if you’re subscribed to memes@lemmy.ml it could also pull in posts from memes@sh.itjust.works and other similar communities on a voluntary basis. It is a problem that needs solving though.

Barbarian,
@Barbarian@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yeah, been trying to learn Rust & Typescript to contribute towards a multireddit feature, but it’s definitely an uphill struggle. I’m out of my depth.

Overall though, the fragmentation is mainly just users trying to make this “Reddit 2.0” instead of letting it develop more naturally, and spamming new communities like mad.

In terms of actually active subreddits with actual users & posts & whatnot, which of these 5 is the “real” technology subreddit?

/r/Tech /r/Technology /r/TechNews /r/Computing /r/TechSupport

I could continue, but there’s a lot more. I don’t think most redditors understand how fragmented everything is.

borari,
@borari@sh.itjust.works avatar

Just joined from the Mid-Atlantic portion of the 95 corridor myself!

I’d love for someone else to chime in with an answer to your question, because that’s something I’ve been wondering myself. I’m pretty sure the general plan in a federated ecosystem is “one of them will become more active, becoming the ‘main’ one”, i.e. it’s an intended feature not an issue. I’m interested to see how that fragmentation might impact an already small user base.

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