The comments on the post the mods made yesterday about discord are awful. “Get over yourselves,” “Spez owned you guys,” “Why would we go to Didcord, we chose Reddit.” They’re all from accounts that are 8+ years old that have never interacted on MFA or didn’t start commenting until Rexxit started.
I agree it’s a great name, but I am still annoyed by it’s real world counterpart. I guess brexit was all about racism and corporate greed, while rexxit is the same but opposite.
It's not a great replacement for a forum experience, a "I need to search for an answer to a specific question" experience, or anything like that.
But for the sense of community that people tended to identify with their favorite subs? I think it's a pretty solid platform. Still has all the same issues regarding any centralized service run by a company, but that's going to be the case for the vast majority of replacements until there's a major paradigm shift across the world.
But one of the worst for everything else it tries to be or people try to use it for, like help forums. It’s a black hole for information. They’ve taken steps to mitigate that, but it remains a half-baked solution.
Sure, but probably the worst for community-forum style content. Links expire, information moves all over the place, no search indexing for engines, can’t view content if you aren’t in the server already, basically impossible to have discussions about anything older than the current day. It doesn’t work for a lot of use cases that reddit/lemmy do.
Agreed, and I never said it is a good reddit replacement. I think discord is lightyears ahead of previous platforms that it replaced like Ventrillo, Teamspeak, AIM, Whatsapp, ICQ, etc etc etc
Sure; it's just so good at being a chat app that it makes a terrible forum.
My understanding is that it can be done and with a whole host of third party tools and bots and a little legion of mods - but that's a ton of work both setup and ongoing, just to reshape Discord into the sort of format that Reddit or Kbin/Lemmy offer pretty much right out the box.
Oh yeah no, I don’t disagree that going to discord of all places is a horrible idea. I hate discord and I hate that people are trying to use it as community alternatives, but the real issue is the Reddit apologism.
Discord is good for live chat, but horrible for aggregation and public discussion. I mean that’s why most of us are here, because the platform works well for our needs. Supposedly Discord has a forum, but I’ve never seen a link to it on the regular site and from what I understand it doesn’t get much traffic. It’s simply not in a position to be an alternative to Reddit.
The Reddit debacle continues as it replaces the r/malefashionadvice subreddit moderators following their refusal to reopen to the public.
Reddit followed through on its threat to take over subreddits if they did not reopen to the public with its takeover of r/malefashionadvice on Thursday. Prior to closing down in protest of Reddit’s API price changes. The subreddit was one of the biggest on the platform that was still engaged in the protest, boasting more than five million subscribers.
Reddit reached out to moderators telling them if they didn’t reopen their subreddits they would be in violation of the company’s moderator code and could be replaced. “We more or less have been expecting the removal for the past few days,” one former moderator of r/malefashionadvice, who asked to go by “Walker,” told The Verge.
A Reddit administrator warned r/malefashionadvice it would be replaced if it didn’t reopen and a month later, it stayed true to its word and took over the platform. The subreddit originally had three moderators but was replaced on Thursday with just one, ModCodeofConduct. Reddit users can once again browse the content on r/malefashionadvice, but it will be in a restricted mode that prohibits all but certain users from making new posts.
Although ModCodeofConduct has taken over the subreddit, the mod posted a call for people to volunteer to become a moderator for the page on Friday, telling people to comment on the post to volunteer.
ModCodeofConduct has also taken over other subreddits including r/ShittyLifeProTips, r/AccidentalRenaissance, r/oldbabies, r/fordtransit, and others.
Major Reddit moderators went dark last month in protest of the company’s announcement that it would be raising its API prices, saying it was necessary because Big Tech companies like Microsoft and Google are using its data to train AI models. The site’s API allows other companies to use data from Reddit to bolster their own products and services, but the change would mean a large surcharge for premium access.
Nearly 9,000 subreddits temporarily shut down on June 12 in protest, but in a group statement, moderators said, “Others will go away permanently unless the issue is adequately addressed since many moderators aren’t able to put in the work they do with the poor tools available through the official app,” The Guardian reported. It continued, “This isn’t something any of us do lightly: we do what we do because we love Reddit, and we truly believe this change will make it impossible to keep doing what we love.”
I wonder if Reddit only charged for access to the full length of posts over 50 words. I suspect that most of the useful guman-generated content is long-form replies rather than snarky crap you'd find on shittylifeprotips. This would target large corporations and even allow 3rd party apps to reduce bandwidth costs by forcing users that want to see long replies to click a button, and only when clicked would the 3rd party app need to pay a reasonable amount.
My lemmitard in christ it hasnt happened yet. We are only a small .1% of crossovers and the whole fediverse is still less populated than r/malefashion advice.
Reddit kind of got lucky with the development of modern smartphones.
Old format forums that were designed for desktops were way too cluttered for mobile, especially with how small screens were back then. Reddit comes along with its streamlined take on forums as well as the ability to have a forum for any and every subject all on one site and it just took off.
Reddit began as a clunky forum and was popular long before smartphones, though. And like the other person said, they didn't have an app for a long time. So this take of yours is a little flawed.
It wasn’t popular long before smartphones. It was known about, sure. But the development of modern smartphones is what made Reddit one of the biggest sites in the world.
Reddit got to where it is by relying on the labor of others. The original site code was open source, the mobile apps were made by other people, users moderated the subs for free, and users generated almost all of the content.
It is not the number of users. It is quality of interaction. And I argue that it is already here (kbin user). Yes, it still misses such things like subreddit for a particular obscure game, but the overall experience is great.
You can talk about quality all you want, but if the room you wanna be in is empty you’re going to leave. You need a ton of users to populate the smaller communities that people will stick around for, not just the meme and porn threads.
It’s not like Reddit started with the current user base. It starts with big topics like memes, news, politics, ask, etc. That’s rolling. From there it starts to go niche and fill out.
Right — on Reddit, if you didn’t get to a post within say the first hour or so*, you were going to be banished to a vast wasteland of unseen comments with only one upvote.
Even if you did, well, your comment best be damned clever, funny, or interesting to be interacted with much.
This basically feels like a less lonely Reddit.
Mastodon also has this vibe for me (vs twitter). Basically, the superstar economy effect is less strong.
*or piggyback on an existing top-rated comment (trying to make one’s own relevant to it, or “hijacking” it)
I 100% agree. I sometimes think of le funniest heehee hohos on reddit and i get 2 upvotes. Lemmy hits that dopamine a little harder with smaller number of users.
I love the bias in the article, like the 3rd party apps were basically just stealing revenue. And understating exactly how insane the api prices were too
“Major Reddit moderators went dark last month in protest of the company’s announcement that it would be raising its API prices, saying it was necessary because…”
Bullshit bwana! They instituted OSFA pricing, when prior it was free.
Get the fucking facts straight before publishing, ya gits.
They instituted OSFA pricing, when prior it was free.
Even that, while technically true doesn’t paint the full picture. Let me try:
They cut off the API to everyone: 3rd-party apps, disabled users, mods who use tools to moderate (that don’t exist on Reddit). Then, they priced access to the that API so high that basically no 3rd-party could afford it.
This is cutting off the API to practically everyone (in practice, if not in action) ahead of their planned IPO. And because they want to charge for the LLM AI’s that use Reddit content for training…
It wasn’t just that, they followed with other changes that alienated mods and users. The API thing was just the beginning of a campaign. It’s not even something new, this kind of downfall has happened before when social media sites prioritize profit above community. They had a good run and outlasted those that preceded them, but evidently the cycle is doomed to repeat.
MFA was one of my fave subs so I decided to check out what happened since this forced reopening. The pinned thread asking for mod volunteers is being trolled right now. I love it.
That first comment has thrown me for a loop. The replies accuse if of being ChatGPT, and it extremely looks like ChatGPT, but I think it might be a human imitating ChatGPT? Bang-on imitation if so.
I see this as a good thing. Now Reddit has to bear the cost. Even if they find replacement volunteers, some employee still has to make that happen. Likely several. It’s costing them. And that’s what the goal was. To weigh them down.
I was hoping every mod would walk away. All at once. Like you say you can run it all, there you go.
The only reason I go back to reddit is to copy/paste a modmail I wrote to those asking to get in. I end it with listing asking them to think about some Reddit alternatives and link the sites too. (I list: Lemmy.world, kbin.social, tildes.net and squabbles.io in that order)
He just needs the illusion that it’s profitable. He doesn’t care if user engagement is shitting on him, as long as users are still engaged. Once he’s lined his pockets, he’s gonna jump ship. But not before he’s able to milk every penny he thinks he can get.
Are the investors that stupid? I have a hard time believing that they just blindly go in thinking everything is great when it’s obviously bots a lot of the time and fuzzy numbers being pushed towards their direction. They read the tech news before they buy a tech company, right?
If he’s just looking to cash out and move on then what he’s doing makes sense. Otherwise it’s insanity. He’ll be going down with the ship. As far as investors, I think it’s mostly speculation.
How did he mess up? He’s cashing out and burning the place down behind him. This is all standard practice in vulture capitalism. It happens every day, but you don’t see or care because most of the companies it happens to aren’t centered around a social platform you spend all your free time on.
He’s not cashing out with the best possible circumstances is how he messed up. That’s like saying Elon bought Twitter at a highly inflated price and then crashing and burning all the advertising is doing a great job. Twitter is sinking into the abyss very slowly. It’ll still be around in a year or so but right now Twitter is only worth 1/4 of what Elon paid. Spez already lost like 20% of Reddit’s value after all of his sweet changes. These guys are idiots.
Yeah, because money is all that matters, lol. Obviously it does to him because that’s why he made all of these changes that are backfiring to making him less money. I bet he’ll sleep fine knowing he ruined a website and a lot of goodwill from people volunteering to make communities, because he’s that kind of stupid. Sounds like you would rather be rich than live a good life knowing you made the world better. Go get your flag and put it on top that mountain by yourself and everyone slowly walking away unless they want something from you, sounds greeeeaaaaaaat.
I’m not sure why you’re asduming that because I can see what he cares about, it must be all I care about too.
He absolutely will sleep fine; he doesn’t give a fuck about reddit or its communities. He never did. It was only ever about money. Yeah, it sucks what he’s done, but pretending he’s the loser in this situation when he’s going to live out his days in luxury and comfort while we’ve lost our communities and will always be stuck in the grind supporting the lifestyles of him and his ilk is embarrassingly delusional.
I’ve known quite a few extremely wealthy people and as a whole they were not happy. I would bet Spez isn’t living a great life now and it will hit him some day. Tbh, I don’t care all that much, I like it here.
They may not be happy, but neither are many of the rest of us. The difference is that they have the resources to be comfortable and healthy during their misery. 2/3 of us live paycheck-to-paycheck and can barely, or just flat out can’t, afford basic things like healthcare or maintenance on the vehicles we’re usually required to own to survive.
Being poor is not better than being rich, and only sheltered middle class morons seem to think it is.
Life can suck, but it can really suck when you have financial problems.
Personally I think human beings would be a lot happier if money did not exist. I don’t appreciate money past the extent it provides for my needs. As long as I can pay my bills I’m good. I simply don’t understand the obsession people have with money, but then it’s also a means to power. So basically it comes down to an obsession with power and control. What human trait defines an asshole better than that.
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