r/selfhosted is still rising, WTF? Come to Lemmy!!!

popcorp, 10 months ago

Stop obsessing about Reddit and create a content on Lemmy instead. People will come once they see there’s enough activity here.

Immersive_Matthew, 10 months ago

The OP has double the posts you do?

OtakuAltair, 10 months ago

It’s still a correct statement

platysalty, 10 months ago

Exactly. Chill out. It's not a competition.

Just hang out and enjoy the community.

cyberpunk007, 10 months ago

This is the third ng. Fuck reddit. Just post and it’s all G

peregus, 10 months ago

It’s not an obsession! Simply if all the good poster/commenter that are there would come here, this place would be better!

CrypticCoffee, 10 months ago

Be the change you want to see.

You thought they were the leaders. They’re the followers, staying near the crowd.

Building communities is hard and takes time.

leo, 10 months ago

I am not a good boi?

neuromancer, 10 months ago

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CriticalMiss, 10 months ago

I’d prefer if we stopped bringing up Reddit altogether. We no longer use the platform, we should be happy with what we have here instead of constantly peeping into the neighbor’s garden.

Auli, 10 months ago

Yah but that seems to be what lemmy is turning out to be and I don’t see it being sustainable.

theinspectorst, 10 months ago

I'm one of them! I didn't even know about r/selfhosted when I was on Reddit but I found this place when I joined kbin. I've been thinking on-and-off over the last year about self hosting so subscribed. I still occasionally look at Reddit in view-only mode though (largely for legacy content) so I also subscribed to r/selfhosted over there too last time I checked it.

It's not subscriber numbers that matter though, it's active users and quality new posts - people who go to the sub regularly, upvote, comment, and create content that causes other people in turn to look at the sub. I'm still a subscriber to a tonne of Reddit subs that I used to post and comment regularly on, and now don't. If every active Reddit user became a passive user then Reddit would grind to a halt overnight, regardless of how many users they notionally have.

deleted, 10 months ago

More subscribers… check More comment… maybe check Quality content… nah

I use RSS to get r/selfhosted post and I can guarantee that most posts are amateurs asking questions.

redballooon, 10 months ago

Why would you care about getting banned from Reddit?

peregus, 10 months ago

Because Lemmy has about 0.something % of the users that Reddit has and I still find useful some subreddit.

ancoraunamoka, 10 months ago

I agree with all the comments so far but would like to add my own thoughts. Users are not important. Personally I moved to lemmy because the quality of discussion on reddit dropped so much.

This has been my trajectory:

• avid reddit user and content creator there (not sure if the right term) 2016 - 2018
• lurker from 2018 to 2023
• completely dropped reddit and moved to lemmy

My hope is that we can have the same kind of content and discussion in pre 2020 reddit

R51, 10 months ago

yeah the comment per day graph is not doing too hot. Subscriber count may be rising but comment count is constantly in the valley.

palitu, 10 months ago

this chart (from your link) shows that the change has stifled the activity a bit. maybe a 10-20% drop in new posts per day. which is not insignificant. so maybe subscribers are rising, but the number of posts has dropped and plateaued (so far).

But i dont think it will ever go away, it was also my go-to place for a long time. Hopefully more of the posters and commenters head here!

https://lemmy.perthchat.org/pictrs/image/4bf114d3-1649-4226-bfce-53bb8f8c0b6e.png

CCatMan, 10 months ago

You got it all wrong, everyone is on Threads … Nah, I just subscribed to learn about starting some self hosting. I’m running a local media server, which was easy, but want to branch out to photo backup from my various phones/accounts. Getting nervous that Google will just close my account one day for no reason. Anyway, don’t fret, the community doesn’t need to be 💯 today, it’ll get there.

I personally believe reddit will live on, that’s just the way its going to be. I dropped off, but my account is still there.

bane_killgrind, 10 months ago

Soon.

Quacksalber, 10 months ago

The fediverse keeps sabotaging itself with instances defederating left and right, that way it’ll never become an alternative regular user would want to join.

bane_killgrind, 10 months ago

Defederation isn’t sabotage. It’s a feature for healthy communities. Anyone that is interested in discussions on either defederated community, will create an account for both.

Quacksalber, 10 months ago

Anyone that is interested in discussions on either defederated community, will create an account for both.

And that is the reason why reddit is still growing. If you are required to make multiple accounts just to engage with the communities you want to engage with, Lemmy is no better than separate forums. And those all got overshadowed by reddit for a reason.

nik282000, 10 months ago

Lazy users is why Reddit blotted out individual forums.

Quacksalber, 10 months ago

There is an interesting op-ed adressing the ‘issue’ of ‘lazy users’: arstechnica.com/…/op-ed-why-the-great-twittermigr…

Either way, you won’t convert anyone by attacking them. If you want Lemmy to be able to replace proprietary social media platforms, which is something I want, you have to meet the users’ expectations. The expectation for Lemmy is a Reddit-like experience. But with the fracturing of Lemmy into instances that block each other, normal user will simply stay on Reddit.

bane_killgrind, 10 months ago

Really mobile apps need to make multi-account easy, problem solved.

stephenc, 10 months ago

I still like individual forums and use them on occasion. For me, the reason why Reddit was better is because of the UI. The default phpBB skin is awful for following a dialog in my opinion; Reddit’s much more compact threads free of annoying signature blocks and giant user profile panels is much nicer. Personally I’d be perfectly happy to go back to the days of individual forum accounts if the forums had nice UIs like Reddit or Lemmy. Even Flarum is an example of a traditional forum software with a decent UI. The big missing thing though is threaded conversation which I much prefer over a flat forum, something that Lemmy offers.

Calanon, 10 months ago

Honestly, for anyone not particularly tech literate it’s a bit confusing. It’s got Lemmy in the name. It’s the same UI. Most are going to wonder why they’re suddenly logged out or why they need another account. It’s not intuitive if it’s not something you’re particularly used to.

FarceMultiplier, 10 months ago

So…I own a .com domain that’s really, really good as far as being lemmy-related (it has lemmy in the name).

Not exactly a s self-hosted question, and I’m an old geek so I can arrange hosting and set things up myself when I have time, but anyone have a guess as to my traffic costs if I decide to turn it into a federated lemmy instance and open it up to the public? Just looking for thoughts and opinions.

grue, 10 months ago

I wouldn’t worry about it too much. The per-user traffic costs appear to be low enough that it seems likely you’d be able to sustain the instance on donations, even with a low percentage of altruistic users.

You could also try asking @Ruud.

fossilesque, 10 months ago

Only one way to find out. ;) You can always limit signups if you get overwhelmed. Get yourself one of those DMCA protection licenses too, they’re very cheap afaik.

the_d0c_is_in, 10 months ago

Could you expand on the DMCA protection you mentioned?

fossilesque, 10 months ago

www.eff.org/issues/dmca I am not sure how it all works. However, there is some registration you can sign up for to help comply with: “The “safe harbor” provisions (section 512) protect service providers who meet certain conditions from monetary damages for the infringing activities of their users and other third parties on the net.” You will have to read about it further, but I saw it mentioned when others were discussing setting up an instance. There is a very good Matrix chat where you can get a lot of help too with set up, etc. There’s also a few communities for hosting lemmy, such as !lemmy_support

VonReposti, 10 months ago

If I’m not mistaken this is only applicable for USA.

PhilBro, 10 months ago

Do what you can to make this the place you want to be.

noodle, 10 months ago

Well firstly, why do you care about being banned if you’re leaving Reddit?

Come to terms with Reddit not dying overnight. Lemmy isn’t going to vanish if people don’t move over straight away. Reddit will eventually succumb to the 1000s of tiny self-inflicted cuts. Post content that isn’t on Reddit and people will have a motivation to stay here.

scrubbles, 10 months ago

Make Lemmy the place to be when reddit kills the next thing, and the next thing, and the next thing. Yeah we’re small, but we’re something crazy like almost 10x the size we were before the 3rd party app shitshow.

We aim to be the place where people can migrate to next time reddit causes a freakout, like killing old reddit

leraje, 10 months ago

Subscriber numbers mean little. Take a look at the trend for the posts per day and comments per day graphs. They’re far more accurate indicators of the level of engagement actual users are having with reddit.

I’ve just checked for 10 of the subs I used to subscribe to, 2 of which have over 30m subscribers - all of them have the same downward trend in terms of posts and comments. I’m not saying reddit is in trouble but less new content is being created and that which is is being talked about less, eventually that will take a toll.

scrubbles, 10 months ago

Neat, where are you pulling these graphs?

leraje, 10 months ago

Check the link in OP’s post.

scrubbles, 10 months ago

Oh cool, thanks friend

denzuko, 10 months ago

allowed to talk about Lemmy on Reddit

if /r/lemmy is any proof; A) its ok to talk about lemmy on reddit and B) /u/spez has some validity in his point about users would be back not just because of the ‘48hr’ thing.

That said, yes a loud enough minority can create change and that discussion does need to happen where the users are for the network effect to kick off.

electrogamerman, 10 months ago

Some mods are deleting comments/posts promoting lemmy. I made a post in my fav sub about the community in lemmy and the mods deleted it.

lemmyshmemmy, 10 months ago

I had at least three comments talking about Lemmy removed too. For all I know it was many more than that because I didn’t get any notice or explanation.

My take is that they’re censoring without even informing people because the fediverse is a real threat to them.

scrubbles, 10 months ago

Same, the big 3 communities I host here I made very open posts, not pleading or encouraging people to move even, just “hey, we exist over here if you are curious”. All immediately removed, the mods were having none of that

adonis, 10 months ago

Ever since the api shit happend, and mods left their subs unmoderated, I feel like there are more bot accounts/posts on Reddit than ever.

charles, 10 months ago

That’s also because a lot of mods used the API to detect bots and other malicious users. These tools were removed so even if the mods didn’t leave, they are now significantly less effective.