Compact-ish NAS cases?

I’m looking for a suggestion for compact-ish NAS cases. I only have a few drives, 4 at the moment, so I don’t need a ton of space. But I’d like to downsize without getting a brand new motherboard and PSU it possible (both are ATX at the moment).

My main requirement is being able to install and uninstall drives without worrying about cable management.

Thanks!

spez_,

I got an Argon Eon case with a Raspberry Pi 4, but I’m regretting it because for some off reason my file transfer speeds via SMB are abysmal. I do have a heap of services selfhosted on the Pi and otherwise it’s okay

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/3a298695-143a-4583-bac2-8be240887bcf.jpeg

Edit: If someone was able to get fast transfer speeds via SMB on a Raspberry Pi, I’d like to know how. If the speeds can be increased, my NAS would be perfect

randombullet,

What software are you using

spez_,

I’m using all these, plus OpenMediaVault as the NAS operating system https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/fab016f5-3bd5-4d01-8f10-a6f53529e967.jpeg

randombullet,

Try this in your SMB settings in OMV.

<pre style="background-color:#ffffff;">
<span style="color:#323232;">socket options = TCP_NODELAY SO_RCVBUF=65536
</span><span style="color:#323232;">SO_SNDBUF=65536
</span><span style="color:#323232;">read raw = yes
</span><span style="color:#323232;">write raw = yes
</span><span style="color:#323232;">max xmit = 65535
</span><span style="color:#323232;">dead time = 15
</span><span style="color:#323232;">min receivefile size = 16384
</span><span style="color:#323232;">write cache size = 524288
</span><span style="color:#323232;">getwd cache = yes
</span><span style="color:#323232;">max connections = 65535
</span><span style="color:#323232;">max open files = 65535
</span><span style="color:#323232;">min protocol = smb3
</span><span style="color:#323232;">max protocol = smb3
</span>
spez_,

It’s possibly a hardware limitation. This is my settings

<pre style="background-color:#ffffff;">
<span style="color:#323232;">socket options = TCP_NODELAY SO_RCVBUF=65536 SO_SNDBUF=65536
</span><span style="color:#323232;">read raw = yes
</span><span style="color:#323232;">write raw = yes
</span><span style="color:#323232;">max xmit = 65535
</span><span style="color:#323232;">dead time = 15
</span><span style="color:#323232;">min receivefile size = 16384
</span><span style="color:#323232;">write cache size = 524288
</span><span style="color:#323232;">getwd cache = yes
</span><span style="color:#323232;">max connections = 65535
</span><span style="color:#323232;">max open files = 65535
</span><span style="color:#323232;">
</span><span style="color:#323232;">server multi channel support = yes
</span><span style="color:#323232;">allocation roundup size = 1048576
</span><span style="color:#323232;">aio max threads = 100
</span><span style="color:#323232;">aio read size = 1 
</span><span style="color:#323232;">aio write size = 1
</span><span style="color:#323232;">
</span><span style="color:#323232;">server min protocol = SMB3_11
</span><span style="color:#323232;">client ipc min protocol = SMB3_11
</span>
randombullet,

What’s your HDD model?

spez_,

I’ve got two of these www.amazon.com.au/…/B075WYBQXJ

randombullet,

See if seachest is compatible with your drives. I think it’s only compatible with Exos.

Also are you running through USB?

spez_,

Yes all devices are through USB 3

randombullet,

USB inherently has latency issues and protocol overhead. Seems like you’re restricted to hardware unfortunately.

resurge,

This is interesting since I was planning on making my own RPi4 nas in the near future. Am I seeing correctly from the image that you have 1 (or 2?) 3,5" HDDs connected to some kind of HAT for the RPi (which has SATA connectors probably)?

What speeds are you getting now?

My plan was to connect 2x16TB HDDs to the pi through a USB->SATA cable, which probably is an even less stable setup than yours is but I was hoping it would be enough to do some basic NAS stuff.
I was also planning on using OpenMediaVault like you are.

spez_,

I have two 3,5" HDDs connected as well as two SSDs (installed after the picture). They’re connected via a USB dongle (through the back, so all drives go via USB 3.)

The issue I’m facing is that I only get 10MB/s, even though I should be getting more, even through a USB 3 interface. I’m going to try the suggested SMB configuration from another user and report back shortly

Your setup should be similar to mine. If you get good speeds, I’d love to know. OpenMediaVault is wonderful too - it’s simple and gets the job done. But for my system there’s no RAID, although that doesn’t bother me because 1 HDD is primary, and 1 HDD is backup

resurge, (edited )

Ah so your setup is almost exactly as what I had planned :D (I’ll use 1 SSD instead of 2 though, to be used as boot drive). I haven’t made the box yet, probably in a few months.

Thank you for the reply!
Please do post your updates somewhere in this thread, I’m sure they’ll come in handy when I start building my box.

Corgana,
@Corgana@startrek.website avatar

Check out ASrock’s Deskmini A300 or X300. They are barebones setups with Mini-STX motherboards. Space for two 2.5" hdd and two m.2 slots as well.

Socket462,

You can also evaluate to buy something like this for 3.5 or 2.5inch disks.

Captain_Ender,

Oh man I just said in another thread we need a HomeLab here, give it a Google - they have a pretty good discord if you want to avoid the Reddit

Teckovsky,

!homelab which is the OG migrated community from r/homelab but with the future of lemmy.ml in question, might move or consolidate to another instance soon.

!homelab

!homelabsales

dnzm,
dnzm avatar

...but I want to avoid Discord, too...

rambos,

All compact atx cases were too expensive for my liking, so I decided to make one. I should probably not suggest a case made of plastic, but if you have access to a 3D printer check this out. 288x207x343 mm in size and it can house full size ATX mobo and PSU and 3x 3.5" or 7x 2.5". Colling is silent and good, but I didnt test with more powerfull CPU or 3.5 HDDs

Fermiverse,

As ITX was already mentioned I just built mine using Fractal Node 304 case, in black though. You could keep the ATX power supply.

SinJab0n,

Personally I like this one, its the usual atx tower super compressed to make it a mini tower pc

www.amazon.com.mx/…/ref=asc_df_B08J4C7HG3/?tag=gl…

ZebraGoose,

Here you have a cleaner link:

www.amazon.com.mx/dp/B08J4C7HG3/

SmokeyMcPot,

Odroid HC4 supports two drives in a toaster configuration.

housepanther,

Check out the Jonsbo N1 on NewEgg. It’s pretty popular among NAS DIYers.

tyvsmith,

I have one of these and it’s worked pretty well after some mods for cooling better.

housepanther,

My NAS case is a retro mid-tower ATX that I got at a swap meet. It’s all black and no scratches. Come to think of it, my whole home lab consists of 3 Frankenstein computers and one OptiPlex 7050 that’s handling my routing needs. 😆

Nugget,

What cooling mods did you do?

tyvsmith,

Removed the front metal panel so it’s all mesh. Replaced front fan with a 3000 rpm notcua. Zip tied a 14cm notcua over the mobo.

Nugget, (edited )

This and the N3 look fantastic. I was kind of hoping I could keep my mATX mobo and ATX PSU though, and both are ITX

balance_sheet,

N3 supports only ITX boards.

Source

housepanther,

You might be able to? I’m not familar with the N3.

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