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Kreig, in What are some good games for having a "backseat driver?"

There's a great YouTube channel that focuses around that question. Not game reviews, but reviews of what it's like to live with someone who plays that game (and how enjoyable it is to backseat that particular game)

https://youtube.com/@GirlfriendReviews

I hope it can give you some inspiration

elscallr,
elscallr avatar

I'd never seen that channel before, but the video on Elden Ring was very entertaining.

ShaunaTheDead,
ShaunaTheDead avatar

lol I loved her review of Sekiro where she said something like "as for the soulsborne series, the latest game, Sekiro, is actually IN COLOR!" that's always been my girlfriend's problem with the soulsborne series, they're so dull and depressing to look at. Sekiro looks lush and beautiful while still maintaining that environment of dread.

_haha_oh_wow_, in [News] EA expanding EA Anti-Cheat - bad news for Steam Deck / Linux
@_haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works avatar

Guess I’ll just keep avoiding EA games…

Pistcow,

I see this as an absolute win

NeryK,
@NeryK@sh.itjust.works avatar

It’s not just EA unfortunately. Plenty of multiplayer titles that could run on SD are prevented to do so because of anticheat.

Hell even Roblox used to work until they broke it with anticheat a few months ago. My kid was not happy with that.

thisisawayoflife,

I don’t understand how this hasn’t been solved yet. The new Texas Chain Saw Massacre game has had massive cheating problems. How is it 2023 but people haven’t figured out anticheat yet? Also, how are game companies just not banning these users permanently when they are caught?

I’ve heard all kinds of rumors about how the server side doesn’t do any client traffic validation, et al. I’m a dev by trade so I’m not new to code, but game dev is all a black box to me.

Aggy,

I wonder if it's the cost of data processing the inputs on servers. The ongoing costs of having software handle it on the client machine is close to $0.

Though it feels like democratizing the checks could work. Like, everyone within a match together is checked by everyone else in real time since they're all handling the objects moving around anyways.

Though there are probably many good reasons why that doesn't work or is extremely hard to implement consistently. The idea just came to me

thisisawayoflife,

Computers are very fast these days, and if the only thing that computer is doing is data processing it seems like it should not be an overwhelming task. It honestly seems like the perfect use case for something like Kafka. Data stripped of its schema and encoded to be the smallest size possible. Encrypt that if necessary, maybe using some kind of session only encryption beginning at client server handshake, based on some value that’s generated inside the game binary.

I’m sure it’s difficult to engineer, but it shouldn’t be impossible. I’d love to understand what the current processes are and why things are failing horribly.

damium,

They fail because you can’t trust a machine that an adversary has in their physical possession.

Software running on an untrusted computer can have code and memory injected or modified without modifying the executable files. Binary executable files are by necessity readable and someone with enough time can parse through them to fully deobfuscate and figure out what they are doing. Anti-anti-cheat systems basically perform the same code as the anti-cheat but slightly modify the result to hide the cheating. This can be done either by code swapping in the anti-cheat or at a higher level. If the anti-cheat system is looking at which processes are running then have the system feed it the real list of processes with the cheat processes removed… etc.

Trusted computing requires hardware level monitoring, validated certificates, and zero vulnerabilities since the time the certificate was provisioned. In addition, current technology would also require those base certificates to be regularly rotated and device decertified if it didn’t rotate in time to prevent physical offline hardware attacks on the certificate data. Even game consoles don’t have this level of platform trust and are often physically modified to enable cheating/piracy.

The only successful way to prevent most cheating is to run the simulation entirely server-side and then only send data to each client according to what they should know. Even then you won’t be able to prevent assisted cheating like aim-bots or texture replacements.

bjoern_tantau,
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar

I guess if you want to accurately want to do the checks on the server side you’d have to run the complete game on the server. You can cheat just by making a texture transparent so that you can see enemies behind it. To prevent that the server has to render the frames itself and to ensure that really only approved things are seen by the players the easiest would be to just send over the rendered frame instead of letting the players render it themselves. By that point you have basically invented game streaming again.

Still, I wonder what Blizzard games are doing. They work fine on Linux and I haven’t heard much about cheating on there.

thisisawayoflife,

It seems like VAC has solved the binary editing issue a while ago, no?

hedgehog,

You don’t have to send over the frame to fix it a bit, just less information. Minimize the info needed. One thing you can do is occlude to determine which entities should be rendered. Even applied, they could still get an advantage - being able to see an entire character instead of just the exposed part of their foot - but it would at least limit it more.

_haha_oh_wow_,
@_haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works avatar

Well, good news on Roblox: apparently they fixed it for Linux today, just saw a headline about it.

Fubarberry,
@Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz avatar

They changed Roblox to run on linux again, the changes were available on beta channels for awhile now but just made it back to stable yesterday.

NeryK,
@NeryK@sh.itjust.works avatar

Thanks for the heads-up. I’m going to try that out very shortly.

t0fr, in Considering a steam deck
@t0fr@lemmy.ca avatar

I love my Steam Deck. I do a lot of gaming on my regular PC. But I appreciate my Deck when I’m on the go. It’s a great portable gaming device and all the games I’m interested in have worked fine.

What might be beneficial to know in your face, since you have your family and want to be close is the “suspend” feature. In the middle of a PC game, you can simple click the power button to Suspend the game and when you’re done, just turn it back on and you’ll be right where you left it.

Zebrazilla,
Zebrazilla avatar

This, definitely this! The suspend feature is a lifesaver and really makes it so much more likely for me to stick with and finish a game that I truly enjoy.

OmegaMouse, in Steam Summer Sale starts tomorrow: What's on your wishlist for the Steam Deck?
@OmegaMouse@feddit.uk avatar

To be honest I have plenty of games in my backlog to play. Buuuut if there are any really good deals on Tunic, Pizza Tower, Tetris Effect or Cult of the Lamb I maybe consider them.

I should probably reduce my backlog first though...

Hondolor,
Hondolor avatar

We all do xD, and yet we will still buy more games because steam summer sale!

TragicNotCute,
@TragicNotCute@lemmy.world avatar

Pizza Tower looks like an absolute blast. Definitely picking it up on sale if I can.

ElQuePica,

Oh it is, and every single song on its track is banger as well

JowlesMcGee,
JowlesMcGee avatar

Seconding the Pizza Tower recommendation. It was pretty fun, and I agree the sound track is great.

spark947,

I really want it too, but I dont think it will go on sale yet.

shadow01,

Got cult of the lamb in the last sale. Was really fun and ran well. A bit repetitive with managing the cult in my opinion. But there is an option to stop time while you are on crusade (and cooking without minigane. With that it was worth it :)

OmegaMouse,
@OmegaMouse@feddit.uk avatar

I heard there was a big update a couple of months ago - did that change much?

shadow01,

I only played after the upgrade. AFAIK added post game content and the time stop option.

Xeelee,
Xeelee avatar

Wait what? You have to play your games first before you can buy more? Well, fuck.

OmegaMouse,
@OmegaMouse@feddit.uk avatar

I wish - If that was the case I wouldn't be in this situation :'( My will power is not strong

savvywolf, in Epic Games CEO Tim Sweeney was asked by Verge why there is no support for the Steam Deck for Fortnite
@savvywolf@pawb.social avatar

There’s an interesting issue here that shows Linux support is a cultural thing, not a business thing.

They’ve presented it as “it doesn’t make sense to financially support Linux due to low player count.” But they don’t need to provide official support, they just need to tick a box and say “yeah, we don’t support this, do it at your own risk.”

From a purely financial point of view, Linux support is almost free. If you release your game, a bunch of developers off of your payroll will just add Linux support. You don’t even need to give them technical support because they use an unsupported platform.

To use business lingo, blocking Linux support is just leaving money on the table.

But I think a lot of companies feel like they have to have full control of everything. That everything they do most be fully supported and approved by them. That they are scared of letting the community take charge of things because it might tarnish your brand or whatever.

They are worried that there’ll be graphical bugs or something and that’ll make Fornight look bad, so it’s better for their brand image to just block everything they don’t have control over.

It’s a worrying pattern I’ve seen in a few places, including Mozilla of all things.

… Or maybe it’s just that Epic are too stubborn to accept help and contributions from anyone else, especially their “enemies”.

I have been wondering why they don’t just take Heroic launcher and add a skin around it to make an “official” launcher. It’s probably just because they are too prideful to support anything open source or Valve. They think that they need to make their own thing, rather than using existing code.

Sorry for the rambling post, but I think this situation is more due to an unhealthy company culture than “lol 2% market share” as they present it.

HeartyBeast,
HeartyBeast avatar

But they don’t need to provide official support, they just need to tick a box and say “yeah, we don’t support this, do it at your own risk.”

I suspect you need to factor in the efforts needed to prevent cheaters exploiting the unofficial client and spoiling the experience for other gamers

MentalEdge, (edited )
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

There is no “unofficial client” to exploit, there is an unofficial installer/launcher. Windows games run using proton run in exactly the same way they do on windows, the game itself is not modified in any way, that’s the whole point.

It allows you to run games, as if they were on windows. All these companies have to do, is fucking allow it.

TigrisMorte,

I always love how People with no clue how any of it works tell how terrible decisions were made to prevent cheaters.

HeartyBeast,
HeartyBeast avatar

I presume this is a jibe at me, but you don't tell me why I'm egregiously wrong.

cobra89,

Are you aware that Fortnite uses EasyAntiCheat which is already working on Linux with plenty of other games? It’s literally as simple as Epic Games allowing it. And yes the anticheat still works, so no it’s not about preventing cheaters. Read the news from earlier this year about EAC enabling it on Linux and how a whole host of games have already done so.

DroneRights,

I think you’re replying to the wrong person

TigrisMorte,

Not relevant to my comment.

Fubarberry,
@Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz avatar

Epic already makes anticheat that supports Linux, and other games they own already run on Linux with anticheat.

They’re just holding out on fortnite because… actually I’m not sure why. Probably Sweeney’s personal thoughts on it. If they actually wanted it to run on Linux/deck I have no doubt they could without much trouble.

MentalEdge,
@MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz avatar

Sweeney is lying through his teeth here. From things he has said previously, it becomes very clear he hates the whole idea of linux. When steamdeck became a thing, it was clear he was salty about how it would shine a light on it as an alternative OS. With this interview, by now it seems he is beginning to bend under the pressure and at least pretending that “oh I have nothing against such and amazing platform, so sad we can’t support it” in order to not look like an ass.

Which is an out that will bite him in the ass, they can support it, so soon interviewers won’t be asking, “why can’t you support linux” but “why won’t you”.

Mango,

Pro individual agency? Linux.

You’ll own nothing and be happy? Micrapple

We can take an easy guess at which one if these things Epic is.

firecat,

Valve is guilty of the same crime, a billionaire can’t hire anyone to do CSGO2 Apple support. It’s never been about money or support. The CEOs are just being jerks.

savvywolf,
@savvywolf@pawb.social avatar

I’m sure Valve would be very happy to let people use a Vulcan to Metal translator if one existed.

I’m not asking Epic to hire anyone to add Linux support, just asking that they let Linux users try it out and get it working on their own.

ace,
@ace@lemmy.ananace.dev avatar

Valve did purchase the for-profit MoltenVK layer and had it open-sourced under the Khronos umbrella, so they’ve already been happy to provide people a Vulkan-on-Metal solution for those who want to support Apple without an entirely separate rendering engine.

ColeSloth,

In the case of fortnite, this isn’t really true. The issue of fortnite is the anti cheat system is not designed to play nice with Linux and allowing Linux without having the anti cheat on point would lead to players getting mad at cheaters and the collapse of fortnite. It’s happened to several games in the past that couldn’t prevent people from cheating.

cobra89,

Easy anti-cheat stays on. Several other games have implemented it on Linux without problems. Easy anti-cheat made it as easy as the developer (Epic Games) checking a box to allow it to run on Linux. That’s what the person you’re responding to is referring to. It’s a recent development that happened earlier this year.

EveningNewbs,

It’s happened to several games in the past that couldn’t prevent people from cheating.

And those games are…? There are plenty of games that have allowed anticheat to work on Linux and haven’t imploded, but I don’t know of a single one that has. Care to encourage enlighten me?

ColeSloth,

I don’t specifically mean games that used anti cheats that ran on Linux. I just mean games that couldn’t keep from too many people cheating and it ruining the online aspect of a game. A couple different Diablo games come to mind. COD:Warzone got pummeled for a while. Fall Guys had a very rough season 1.

BananaTrifleViolin, in You can now play DOS games on the Steam Deck for free

I don't understand? You can download Dosbox and Dosbox-X in desktop mode and add them to Steam like other apps. Why do you need a website?

kewwwi,

let them eat cake

dangblingus,

Is not an apt analogy. Marie Antoinette’s indifference to the starving French peasants is not the same as calling out non-essential software.

kewwwi,

Veni, vidi, vici

topinambour_rex,
@topinambour_rex@lemmy.world avatar

It wasnt Marie Antoinette but Madame Victoire, a Louis XV’s daughter.

And apparently she didnt spoke about cake, but the dough used for cook paté. Instead to use a baking pan, they used dough for surround the paté and cook it.

A funny twist, is nowadays, we eat the paté with it’s dough. It is a paté en croute.

AnonTwo,

I'm assuming it just does config for you like a lot of the other emulator related stuff on steamdeck does.

pimento64, in Day 1 of having a Deck and this is a noticeable issue
twelvefloatinghands,
@twelvefloatinghands@lemmy.world avatar

Classic user error

sverit,

Skill issue

768,

At a school I was we used to have a mean IT teacher and one of his favorite sayings allegedly was: “Often, the error is in front of the display.”

shadowSprite,

In my computer science class this week I was having an issue with a line of code throwing an error I’d never seen before, so I took my laptop up to my instructor for help. After looking at my code for a minute she very solemnly said “oh, I know what’s wrong. It’s your fault.” After we finished laughing I said “I know it’s my fault, but please tell me why so I can fix it”

XTornado,

I usually say that the problem is between the keyboard and the chair.

Indicah,

Classic PEBKAC

768,

PICNIC

Sharkwellington,

ID10T

WhiteHotaru,

The error is located 20 cm in front of the keyboard.

Zamundaaa,

Professionals call it a “layer 8 problem”

bufordt,
@bufordt@sh.itjust.works avatar

Or sometimes an ID10T error.

JokeDeity,

I could be wrong, but I think that one originated in the military.

HeckingShepherd, in What are some good games to play while absolutely baked?

Tetris Effect. Literally transports you to another world

guyrocket, in Modder Boosts Steam Deck to a Bountiful 32GB RAM
guyrocket avatar

I think a lot of people would have wet dreams about opening this hardware further by not soldering the memory to the mainboard, etc.

Already looks pretty easy to upgrade the ssd, which is great. Now create a PC-like standard for this handheld size.

dudewitbow,

Wont be perfect, but you cpuld theoretically design a case for the framework 13 mainboard and convert it into a handheld. It wont be cheap though.

the16bitgamer, in Probably the worst Deck 2 design I've seen

Didn’t think anyone would be inspired by this controller

seaneoo, in Help Lemmy, Air Pods Pro 2 won't connect to my Steam Deck and I'm at an Airport about to hop on a 4 hour flight!

Is it possible they are connecting to your phone and interfering?

Robdor, in Help Lemmy, Air Pods Pro 2 won't connect to my Steam Deck and I'm at an Airport about to hop on a 4 hour flight!

Download trombone champ and blast at full volume. You won’t need headphones and everyone will love you.

FrankFrankson, in Lists of useful tools, software, mods, websites and other resources

Can moderators can sticky/pin posts here? If so this probably should be stickied/pinned/whatever the fuck you call it here.

Moxvallix,
@Moxvallix@sopuli.xyz avatar

I think it’s called featuring. Yep, it has been featured.

timi,
@timi@lemmy.world avatar

I’ll bring this up to the others.

mihnt, in What are some good games for having a "backseat driver?"
mihnt avatar

Firewatch, 100%.

iAmTheTot, in What are some good games for having a "backseat driver?"
iAmTheTot avatar

If you're into horror, SOMA. It's got an amazing story you can digest together, and there's plenty of puzzles where she could help you figure out the answers. Or be a second set of eyes to look out for clues and the baddies.

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