PenguinTD,

Let them test, I will just use container(so they can’t track my account). And if ad block not working, I will just not watch that video. And eventually move away from YouTube if it’s annoying.

Kekzkrieger,

There will be a script to block their recognition just as there is a ton of scripts to work about other anti-adblocks. You could always go watch a video in incognito and just dont use your account.

Ultimatively this will lead to less interaction on the platform, their ads are so penetrant that you can't even watch anything properly anymore, so more people will adblock -> get banned -> not interract anymore

Lells,
Lells avatar

Ad companies can't handle the idea that people don't want to be hit with ads every 5 minutes. "Well, it's just BAD ads"... no, it's having my experience constantly interrupted.

ArugulaZ,
ArugulaZ avatar

It's both. I dread the coming election year, and it's why I won't even THINK of paying for a streaming service that has advertising. I will pay the extra money to avoid them.

nanometre,

I would be okay with it if the amount of ads and their length was reasonable, like one in the beginning and one at the end or something. For a longer video I wouldn't even mind one at the midway point.

I didn't start using adblockers until I was literally inundated and bombarded and sometimes with ads running the length of movie (no, literally).

It completely ruins the experience. I'm happy to support my creators directly though and I do.

1993_toyota_camry,
@1993_toyota_camry@beehaw.org avatar

part of the issue, imo, is that creators also put ads in their videos. So you get two pre-roll ads, a sponsor segment, an ad in the middle, and then another sponsor segment. Maybe throw in some product placements as well. And one of those ads might be 1.5 hours long if you don't manually skip it. I know I'm not the only one who woke up after falling asleep to a video to find themselves 45 minutes into some ad.

After living with ublock and sponsorblock for so long, it's shocking to watch youtube without them.

Lells,
Lells avatar

I started using an ad blocking DNS on top of browser extension blockers, and it's such a beautiful thing.

nanometre,

I don't mind the sponsor segments as much, I usually just skip to the end of them, but that's only because it's how my creators make actual money, and it's not every video, and when you have adblock on, then it's not as annoying.

But yes, you're right, couple ads with sponsorships and product placements and soon the actual meat of the video is one tenth of the length. So what are we really watching here?

PelicanPersuader,
@PelicanPersuader@beehaw.org avatar

In a fight between a corporation and a bunch of people very determined to get content for free, history shows the corporation always loses.

Zorque,

The only lose on their own terms. That meaning they don't make quite as much money as they used to. It's still money hand over fist.

deaconblue,
deaconblue avatar

Information tech people say we have introduced new measures and methods to guarantee compliance with our policies. And pirates answer challenge accepted

JDPoZ,
JDPoZ avatar

It's not even that people want stuff "for free."

I mean... well... who doesn't love free stuff, but really if the legit product is priced fairly and buying it provides some actual useful service and isn't inconvenient or comes packaged with scummy garbage hindering it, then people will pay for it.

The problem is - that's not what publicly-traded companies like to do. Valve's Gabe Newell said it best (paraphrasing) - "Piracy is a problem with a service... not the customer."

Shitty services or actions businesses take to place a barrier of any kind between customer and the product they seek as a means to lazily extract more money from customers - especially that which is perceived as greedy will make more people seek alternative means of obtaining said product.

Ask people who host Plex servers why they put movies on their server when they already have a Blu-Ray of it.

It's always "because the disc has un-skippable ads" or "they didn't include Ben Affleck's commentary track on it where he shits on Michael Bay for being a goddamn moron," or "I don't like seeing 14 different warnings before watching the movie I like" or "I don't like seeing 10 min of ads every 5 min of watching my favorite show."

It's hardly ever "I like being a thief" or "I couldn't afford it..." and in the case of the latter, they weren't going to buy it anyway.

RedditExodus,
RedditExodus avatar

I run a plex server because I don't want to subscribe to 15 different services with 15 different shitty UIs just to watch TV. FF and rewind always works the same on Plex and the pause button is always in the same spot.

Every time I open Netflix or Hulu or Prime I am infuriated that it doesn't immediately take me to the last show I was watching.

Also I like to watch shows as they originally aired, not with missing episodes that Hulu pulled to keep advertisers happy (It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia and Community come to mind).

Tetra,
Tetra avatar

Guess I'm getting banned then, I will never disable my adblockers, the internet (and Youtube especially) is goddamn unusable without them.

lemmyvore, (edited )

I don’t quite understand how they’re gonna “ban” you if you’re not logged in. Which you can accomplish with an incognito tab. What are they gonna do, block the IP?

rwhitisissle,

What are they gonna do, block the IP?

This is exactly what they will do, yes.

stom,
@stom@beehaw.org avatar

Oh no! I'll have to restart my router and come back 60 seconds later with another IP! Let them block the poor rando who gets my IP next.

(They won't do this for exactly that reason)

unfnknblvbl,

Can't wait until they find out about dynamic IPs

s0phia,

Never understood IP bans. 2 minutes to restart my router and I'm there again!

nevemsenki,

With carrier grade NATs, they'd block a bunch of people, even subscribers...

Bowen,

My first thought was "what if there's a service outage and I can't load advertising content from their CDN?" It's very clearly a different location because otherwise ublock would block actual content.

If they don't do that and just check for things like ublock client side, guess my decision to put pi hole on my network was smart.

AlexTheLost,

If the adds were bareable it would be different, but no.

On the plus side this should really help with my youtube addiction

Powderhorn,
@Powderhorn@beehaw.org avatar

Maybe the general public is more compliant than I am, but my money for YouTube creators goes to them via Patreon. Google not knowing how to break even on a bandwidth- and storage-intensive property it's owned for more than a decade does not constitute an emergency I need to have any part in paying for.

If very recent history is any guide, this is exactly how you get people searching "YouTube alternatives uBlock." No one is saying there aren't enough ads on the site; the increasing malignancy of ads over the years is why people categorically reject whitelisting youtube.com, and "more ads" is not a solution to any user-facing problem.

fedosyndicate,
fedosyndicate avatar

Yeah, video ads are the popup ads of our days. Just as intrusive. Money corrupts :(

ColonelSanders, (edited )
ColonelSanders avatar

Good news to everyone! We've wanted an alternative to YouTube for a long time. Now it looks like Google that next big step in forcing alternative platforms to rise in it's place. I'm an avid user of YouTube, but not a snowball's chance in hell will I buy Premium when they are trying to shove it down my throat like that. That's a very good way to get people to NOT buy something but for some reason companies don't seem to understand.

Gabe Newell said it best: "We think there is a fundamental misconception about piracy. Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem." - Piracy was down and streaming subscriptions were up when Netflix first came about due to the ease/convenience of it, but piracy is seeing a return due to the mishandling and misconception of companies about how to gain profit through improved services vs increased pricing/poor performance.

The reason I bring this up is because YouTube, like many companies, thinks they're "solving" the issue of adblocking by force-feeding this kind of bullshit to the masses, but all they're doing is forcing more people to turn to alternatives instead.

Kichae,

I wouldn't be so sure about Netflix. They're watching the wave of streaming competitors start to crumble, with HBO Max getting dismantled, and now Paramount+ looking like it's ready to throw in the towel. They seem to be reacting to incoming lower consumer choice.

The rest, though...

janus2,

Looking forward to the day YouTube creators start moving to Odysee or Peertube or something similar

currently Odysee is a lot of right wing stuff (not my thing) and tinfoil hat level privacy tech stuff (def my thing, but I have other interests…)

and Peertube is… Peertube is just a UI mess so I can’t even summarize the content well. Especially because I am pathetically monolingual despite several semesters of foreign languages 💀

ColonelSanders,
ColonelSanders avatar

It's unfortunate more people aren't willing to give new websites the same chance we/they gave YouTube and the like back when they were new. Yeah they're going to be bare bones/UI will be messy, but that stuff takes time to improve.

rm_dash_r_star,

Bad news for me, I use youtube a lot with an adblocker and it’s essentially ad-free. It’s going to be a bad day for me when they start cracking down. It doesn’t surprise me, but it’s a bummer.

space,

Not to worried, the cat and mouse game would probably catch up within a few weeks on the blocking side.

gk99,

I wouldn't be so hopeful, Twitch has pretty much remained unbeaten and the only "ad block" solution I've found still gives a 30 second interruption of the stream, it just doesn't show the ad anymore. It's why I don't use the site anymore, even with Twitch Turbo as an option these days.

Velonie,

I use this one and it works perfectly fine. No interruptions

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/twitch_5/

slartibartfast42,

I don’t think I’ve ever seen so many 429s in my life.

TranceReduction,

Incidentally, I am also implementing a three strikes policy - as in I'll still using your website after seeing this shit three times.

modulartable,

My senior neighbor watches YouTube a ton and uses it to listen to music on his laptop. His old laptop recently died and I helped him order a new one and put FireFox with the whole works of adguard, ublock origin, sponsorblock, etc. on it for him and its changed his life! He loves not seeing these dumb ads now!

worfamerryman,

Stop showing 3-minute long k-pop music videos. Like, why is that even an ad? Do they think I am suddenly going to start listening to k-pop or something?

Also, stop showing gross medical stuff, like this is a cure for your foot fungus or look how much earwax is in this persons ear. Just the other day there was an ad about not being able to get an erection. I tried to report, it but I could not see where to do it. But it was pretty inappropriate.

I get ads on my iPhone and always skip them, so this will not really affect me, especially since I mostly use freetube on the desktop.

TwoGems,

I pray we get a Youtube competitor too, because Google has no incentive to change. We've needed one a while.

KeefChief12,

Couldn't agree more, if youtube goes through with this I will again be looking for another alternative.

WimpyWoodchuck,

Depending on what you're watching, https://nebula.tv/ might be a very good alternative for thought-provoking content.

coffeejunky,

I'm kicking all my bad habits, Twitter, Reddit and probably now YouTube.

I did sign up for a year of nebula about two weeks ago so it's going to be a soft landing.

Engywuck,

I'm sorry for youtube-addicted. On my part, I use it, maybe, twice per year, so I couldn't care less.

JustARegularNerd,

I want to abandon the shit platform but its just so nice like in my lunch breaks at work or just after work, whack on some YouTube, and I can watch gaming, I can watch tech, I can watch really niche tech, I can watch people fixing cars, I can watch an Aussie dude fuck around with his nuggets, like these people are genuinely interesting and make genuinely good content, but there’s no decentralized or otherwise separate YouTube-like platform they upload to elsewhere.

Sure, Nebula has thought provoking videos, Floatplane has a few, Odysee has a few more but there’ll be that niche YouTuber who does videos on vintage Macs that I’m in the mood for, and back onto YouTube I go.

It’s scarily difficult to get off it. I want to, and maybe I will if things get so shit it’s borderline unusable, but I think Google knows how to boil the frog and unfortunately that’s the reality of it all.

I envy you not having YouTube as something you don’t use often. YouTube was genuinely at least a decent platform over 10 years ago when I joined it, and I’ve been hooked on it since, every single shit change they make.

Engywuck,

I think I'm lucky enough for being born in the '70s and there were less things to which become addicted. In my case, they were (and still are) books. If you really feel like leaving YT, you may just look for books on topics of interest...

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