what would Reddit need to do to get you to go back

I'm not trying to convince anyone to go back i promise, quite the contrary actually cause I think spez plans to just decrease the cost of the API and act like it was a bargain deal sacrifice while not solving any of the issues at all

But, when I think about it even if spez did actually listen and reverse all changes I don't think i want to go back to Reddit cause from what Ive seen Lemmy is just friendlier and less :Be Corporate Friendly: I would honestly love it if Lemmy did a project like r/place one of these days so we could see what the internet is actually like instead of what happened in 2022 (I really did enjoy what a bunch of communities did but when the mods started abusing their powers to make it corporate r/place lost so much meaning) but i am curious since i'm not going back is there anything Reddit can do to make you go back to Reddit?

bdonvr,

Go back to being open source, become a non-profit.

Basically not gonna happen.

The profit motive will just recreate this same scenario no matter what they promise.

Austin-Philp,
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Yeah - even if they back pedal (as I still think is likely) it's super clear at this point that reddit is just interested in milking it's users for every cent until they can IPO.

Spez literally just said in the AMA "We’ll continue to be profit-driven until profits arrive."

bdonvr,

Which is a complete lie. It's never enough for capitalists, they're never going to stop being profit driven.

density,
density avatar

"good news, we have made a profit so now we can stop"

LiemPong_Pagong,
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I'm Sorry Reddit, my old friend. There's no turning back now. Farewell.

this,
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u/spez fired, paid API policy reversed, NSFW policy change reversed, public apology to christian and all reddit users promoting lemmy who got banned + compensation for defamation, all decisions regarding site administration and API policy permanently democratized, so that this shit never happens again, make the whole thing open source.

I don't expect a single thing on my list to happen, but everything on that list would have to happen before I considered returning.

Sabata11792,

Im leaving beacuse it's too far gone to ever recover.

roi,

Me too.

Ultra980,

Same.

Rising5315,

Highly unlikely they’d ever be able to rebuild that bridge but it would start with turning back the API decision. Then hiring Christian from Apollo to help them with building a better app. A significant amount of the leadership stepping down and leaving. Mods getting paid. Transitioning to a platform not reliant on ads. Getting Victoria of AMA fame back. Having mods be an elected position.

If all that happened maybe I’d think they turned into something worth coming back to.

jmp242,

Transitioning to a platform not reliant on ads.

How do you see that working? Pay for access? Pay to post? I know there's one sort of BBS called "The Well" that apparently has run since 1985 by charging monthly, now $15 a month. That's a big ask for sight unseen BBS / forum. But that's apparently what it costs to run the servers for ~ 3,000 people.

I just think that sort of thing would really really kill reddit right fast - approximately none of the normies are going to want to pay monthly for memes and harassment.

lanbanger,

If you want to read the history The WELL, and other virtual communities, then Howard Rheinghold's book "The Virtual Community" is a very good read. I first read it before I even had internet access, and it completely captivated me. Talk of running The WELL on a minicomputer will certainly feel dated, though :-)

dsf190,

I feel like Christian wouldn't take a job at reddit if they offered one. He seems to be pretty set on being a native iOS developer and reddit's app is cross-platform. Not to mention he has beef with the CEO now, lol

density,
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In an interview posted to youtube the other day I am pretty sure he said they did offer him a job when he first released apollo but he declined

redsol2,

TBH, the thing I disliked most about Reddit ended up being the community. It was nice having little niche communities, but wisps of inceldom, hivemind, and that general air of arrogance permeated the entire site. Killing the apps that made the site tolerable to use (Apollo, in my case) was just the last straw. I already used a plugin that deleted all of my posted content from the past 5 years, so I'm officially out, and it's kind of a relief. I'll stick to Discord interest servers and small communities like this one from now on.

Arystique,
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Discord is weirdly popular recently, I found out multiple of my co-workers use discord and I did a doubletake it just felt weird

tripp,

To bad discord isn't index-able.

Gork,
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I'm sure all of the alphabet intelligence agencies are making Discord indexable now for themselves after the major leak a few months ago.

John_Coomsumer, (edited )

I think the general UI looking nice and modern has a weirdly high impact on people adopting it, because lord knows the actually interfacing of servers and channels is bizarre and takes a while to pick up

jmp242,

I literally had to have a coworker give me an invite to a server to test it out and figure out how the heck it worked. It was less obvious (or at the time felt way more gatekeepery) than Lemmy or Mastodon to me. You need an invite?

Then I found some subreddits had Discord servers, and open invites. Now... IDK. I don't think it's at all like reddit though - it's like IRC with pictures.

Banana,
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I always think that Discord has a huge potential to replace both Reddit and Twitch if they wanted too.

sarsaparilyptus,

Even if Reddit fires Steve, goes nonprofit, brings back the old algorithm, open-sources everything, unconditionally repudiates everything that led to the Aimee Challenor fiasco, rolls back every single change they scapegoated Ellen Pao for, yanks the choke chain on the powermod cabal, gets rid of New Reddit, allows apps to access their API for free forever, and permanently removes the ability to shadowban users...

...it'll still be full of arrogant, elitist pricks that intentionally misinterpret everything you say to try and get a le epic mic drop wholesome keanu chungus moment. I don't want to go back to that.

LinkOpensChest_wav,

I agree with everything you said, but I'd like to add that for me personally -- I saw myself become one of those people on reddit, and I hated it. There is something about reddit that makes everything feel extremely toxic. I can't quite put my finger on it. I don't feel that way here, or on discord, or even on tumblr.

I hope I never go back to reddit.

Starfish,

open the source code and become part of the fediverse. reddit is stuck in the past

boomer,

Stop the ridiculous moderation

spinoza_the_jedi,

Nothing.

Reddit and u/spez haven't even offered an apology and/or reversed their position. But let's be real, here - apologies don't necessarily make things right, and they don't necessarily erase what's been done. At best, we can forgive. But people don't forget. Whatever trust there may have been, it's gone now. I've grown tired of the half-assed apologies made by organizations and famous individuals that are supposed to make everything ok and compel us to forget what was done. I don't think I'd care if Reddit and/or u/spec tried to make amends. They would not be genuine - your true colors are visible for all to see. Welcome to the real world where hollow apologetic half-measures don't fool anyone.

If I spat on your lunch because I was having a bad day, I don't think there would be much I could say to defend my actions. Actions speak louder than words, and sometimes when you screw up there's no going back. You're just done.

pilirin,

nothing short of the resurrection of Aaron Swartz at this point. huffman's screwed the pooch while jumping the shark at the same time, and the rest of the board are complicit. either get rid of them all and replace them with geeks who act like are there so that the servers don't break down, or we'll stay in other places like this where that specific situation is the reality.

it's about the user experience. can't have the corporate cheeze-heads fucking that over for the sake of a quick buck,

philluminati,

One thing that irritates me about Reddit is how it's converged with the rest of twitter, instagram and tiktok to be just endless scrolling through memes, gifs and videos. Reddit is so far from it's roots and killing third party apps really does remove that old avenue. I do feel like commenting is going to reduce as people just mindlessly scroll through content without really engaging it anymore.

Otome-chan,
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I'm just trying to find content that I like with active communities. if reddit has it, I'll use reddit. if not, then not.

kratoz29,

I think I'm gonna stay here a bit longer tbh...

I just need to find a good Android app.

TechnologyClassroom,

Jerboa on F-Droid is nice.

Chritter,

Spez resigning and free API access to all third party apps as it was before.

Honestly though? Lemmy is reminding me of old reddit and I'm enjoying it so who knows if I'd even go back if this site keeps growing at the rate that it is.

aaronbieber,
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Reddit was dead from the day Conde Nast bought it. Every day since then was a roll of the dice as to whether they'd attempt to seize more profits and ruin it, or not. This happens to essentially every public or aspiring public company eventually. The need for perpetual growth warps decisions and guts the original mission in the end.

We call it "autosarcophagy" or "self-cannibalism."

As I understand it, Reddit also took on a lot of external capital investment, which only makes the pressure to perform financially even greater. I can't fault them for making the decisions they have to make to keep their jobs, keep their executive salaries, and so on.

Long live the sustainable, community-driven, community-funded future! Nobody can screw this up for us if we are the ones footing the bill.

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