sexual_tomato,

100 microwatts.

Lol so the same as almost every other nuclear battery.

MonkderZweite,

that contains 63 nuclear isotopes.

the nickel 63 isotopes

AI article?

CucumberFetish,

Too many of those floating around. Another gem I recently stumbled upon was power consumption of 4.7 watts per watt.

Cort,

I wonder if that’s the efficiency, like heat watts to electric watts?

NeoNachtwaechter,

It’s too late for mobile devices. Everybody expects a permanent internet connection, either WiFi or mobile internet, and therefore they all need much more than some microwatts.

However, medical implants seem appropriate.

Death_Equity,

The nuclear battery for a phone would be larger than the one in the article and likely paired with a capacitor battery. So the nuclear battery is constantly outputting 1w to a capacitor that stores energy that the device draws from.

Phones don’t use tons of power constantly and the standby power needs are fairly low.

NeoNachtwaechter,

Just calculate an average day’s energy example. Let’s say, you charge your 5000mAh battery once per day from “10%” 2,6V to “100%” 4,2V. That makes about 8Wh. So your average for the whole 24 hours is 0,3 W, or 300 mW or 300.000 μW.

Diplomjodler3,

Nickel 63 has a half life of 100 years. So that means you have safely store these things for 500 years after using them. Yeah, sounds totally fine.

Jimmycakes,

Can I just store it in the river behind my house?

bigkahuna1986,

That’s bad for the environment. You have to send them down the garbage disposal first!

Atelopus-zeteki,
@Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run avatar

I noticed, by reading the article, that Nickel 63 decays to Copper 63 which is stable.

"Betavolt further states the battery is environmentally friendly. “After the decay period, the nickel 63 isotopes become a stable isotope of copper, which is non-radioactive and does not pose any threat or pollution to the environment,” the company explains. “Therefore, unlike existing chemical batteries, nuclear batteries do not require expensive recycling processes.” "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isotopes_of_nickel

SharkAttak,
SharkAttak avatar

Key word 'after decay period', which means after it's lost all or most of its radioactivity.. still a lot of time.

Rotten_potato,

Sounds very similar to the old Soviet pacemakers with radioisotope batteries. After the collapse of the Soviet Union, records about them got lost and so a bunch of people have been buried with pretty radioactive stuff in their chest. I don’t think we (as developed societies) are going to take that risk for some phone batteries…

NounsAndWords,

I don’t think we (as developed societies) are going to take that risk for some phone batteries…

Not unless it’s profitable, at least…

Atelopus-zeteki,
@Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run avatar

Fortunately for us, Nickel 63 decays to plain old Copper 63, which is stable. Science! However too much copper in the diet can be deleterious.

CucumberFetish,

Yes. After a few centuries it will be harmless.

sunbeam60,

Could be good for a LoRa node. But obviously won’t hit the market.

errer,

LoRa still needs about 100mW when transmitting, which is a thousand times more than what this can do…

sunbeam60,

Yes I’m talking about recharging a battery sitting next to this; agreed that it can’t power a node directly. In the U.K. we are actually allowed to transmit up to 500 mW on the ISM band (provided we adhere to the utilisation quota, which I think is 15%)

Fisk400,

One day there will be a revolutionary battery but it won’t get funding because of these people making insane claims.

jordanlund,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

“it says can keep a device charged for 50 years.”

On a device that gets replaced every 1-3 years? 🤔

Better be user replaceable or that’s a lot of energy being stored in landfills.

smileyhead,

On a device that gets replaced every 1-3 years? 🤔

Who says the devices are going to be replaced every 1-3 years after we solve those problems like today’s non-replacable short-lasting batteries?

yuki2501,
@yuki2501@lemmy.world avatar

Planned obsolescence.

jordanlund,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

The battery tech isn’t the part that needs replacing. ;)

smileyhead,

Smartphones are almost perfected now, the only “parts” that are making them obsolete after 2-3 years are batteries and operating system, both should be regulated to be changable and available for third-parties to make replacement.

wahming,

Turning every landfill into a fission reactor is certainly one way to fix the landfill issue

LazaroFilm,
@LazaroFilm@lemmy.world avatar

Make devices BYOB (Bring Your Own Battery)

londos,

Would be cool for long term, low power devices like sensors embedded in concrete in bridges and building structures for monitoring stresses.

shortwavesurfer,

Once they have a one watt version, this would be good for trickle charging when you are not using the device, such as when you’re sleeping. But you would definitely need a lithium battery alongside it for normal use.

bruhduh,
@bruhduh@lemmy.world avatar

Yes, hybrid batteries could work

Infiltrated_ad8271,
Infiltrated_ad8271 avatar

It would be great to have an ultra-low power mode for emergency calls.

mrfriki,

It’s already Saturday, I was worried there won’t be the weekly fix of miracle battery news incoming. What a relief!

SkaveRat,

yeah, the battery mircacle day got moved from wednesday to saturday, to give miracle AIs the new prime slot on wednesdays

shartedchocolate,

I can’t believe it’s not butter

roguetrick,

The article is really funny, because they talk about how this company's innovation could be used in pacemakers. When they had betavoltaic pacemakers in the 1970s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betavoltaic_device

Moira_Mayhem,

The innovation isn't the product, it is the manufacturing. The cells in pacemakers had the housing of the pacemaker to protect from puncture.

These devices are meant to go in portable electronics so puncture safety is far more critical.

Honestly radioactive copper as a low volt lifetime battery is an interesting idea. It won't live power a phone but it could charge it while inactive.

Good for camping where solar isn't viable.

Overzeetop,

You’ve touched on a great point. The power provided is so low that solar can effectively provide equivalent power in nearly every application except one where the continuous operating environment is pitch black. 15x15mm for 0.0001w is small. For comparison, that’s about 1/6 of the power that falls on a 15x15mm patch in an indoor office (300lux environment with led lighting), out about the same as could be harvested by an efficient solar panel off the same size. You could collect a full days power from this battery (and store it in a 2mm thick li cell behind the panel) in roughly three minutes of sunshine or ten to fifteen minutes on an overcast day.

There certainly are applications where it would be useful, but most could just as easily be served by a small solar patch and lithium cell or super capacitor.

Norgur,

Give us this day thy daily revolutionary battery invented tech journalism hype bullshit

jqubed,
@jqubed@lemmy.world avatar

Wait a minute. Are you telling me that this sucker is nuclear?

Hovenko,
@Hovenko@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

… but wont.

doctortofu,
@doctortofu@reddthat.com avatar

Another revolution in battery tech? Man, is it Friday already? Look how time flies…

beckerist,

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    Time zones

    beckerist,

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    UTC is only time.

    Darkenfolk,

    Nay, witchery I say.

    MonkderZweite,

    But it is a miniature RTG…

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