FunnyUsername,
@FunnyUsername@lemmy.world avatar

I know this isn’t a common takeaway, but I’m all for it.

The current state of call centers is EXCRUCIATINGLY painful for consumers and only exists in the form it does to commodify US for the company. We tolerate the shit experience of call centers, so companies don’t need to pay more money to give us a better experience. That’s why they exist, the only reason. If firing them all and turning them into AI makes the experience even SLIGHTLY less painful than calling your local public assistance help line, I’m all for it. If I can bypass 4 separate phone tree selection menus with 3 minutes of wait time with the crackling loud wait music between being passed around departments, I’m all for it. These are shit dead end jobs with no upside whatsoever.

twig, (edited )

The fact that generative AI is being used as a means of large corporations consolidating even more wealth rather than attempting to free the working class from shitty, menial jobs shows that we’re way the fuck off with how we conceptualize of “work”.

This should be a good thing, but for lots of people this will suck.

Feathercrown,

Call center owners deserve it

manuallybreathing,

I will not be shedding a tear if people no longer have to work in such a soul crushing menial job. Fuck around and findout what happens millions of people lose their jobs all at once.

but anyway this is just some more ai hype stock manipulation shit.

obsolete,
@obsolete@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

It’s a soul destroying job anyway.

MajinBlayze,

At least we’ve all got reasonable unemployment measures to make sure these people are able to transition to better work.

Treczoks,

First of all, it will make cold calling way, way worse. Time to ramp up restrictions, fines and other penalties for that kind of stuff.

When it comes to tech support call centers, some may actually improve. Not because the technology is so superior, but just because the current support simply sucks, and any change would be an improvement. And then they must actually work, i.e. solve the customers problems. On top of that, there is that case where an AI call center made expensive promises (IIRC if promised a car for $1 or something like that), and the judge made the company uphold this deal.

captain_aggravated,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

Of all the things that should decimate call centers…

Albatross2724,

It’s already in the works. We leverage genrative AI via a chat bot in our internal ticketing system for ticket deflection and we’re currently rolling out a similar feature for external customers as well. This goes well beyond simply linking high level FAQs. The bot asks a series of questions based on the issue and goes through the same line of questions our service desk reps ask to help diagnose and resolve the issue. And if they go through the entire T1 process within a minute or so and don’t have an answer, it creates a ticket for the appropriate team based off of whatever platform, app, or website the issue is in regards to.

It’s crazy scalable and has allowed multiple teams to shift focus towards more project oriented work. Without it we probably would have hired more service desk reps as the company grew

We still get some internal customers that just mindlessly click through it or slack us directly but that’s the joy of IT.

Dra,

Good, fuck call centers. Make sure the societal benefit is captured via tax

Dark_Arc,
@Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg avatar

I might be the only one that’s kind of optimistic this will improve some of the cheapest call centers.

Some of them … the people have such thick accents, don’t get any local references, the connection is bad, don’t know the first thing about the subject matter, etc.

I called my health insurance company one time because CVS said my vaccine wasn’t covered there; the lady on the other end of the phone I could barely understand and I had to explain to her that CVS is a pharmacy. She still didn’t give me any helpful information. Eventually via poking around the website or something like that, I found out my insurance company doesn’t cover pharmacist administered vaccines … which is just insane to me.

3volver,

Doesn’t sound insane to me, sounds like a perfect example of the state of the US healthcare system. I stopped paying for healthcare 2 years ago, best decision I ever made.

flying_sheep,
@flying_sheep@lemmy.ml avatar

Because you emigrated and get this live saving essential service for free?

maynarkh,

Just to note, it’s not free, it’s not magic, it’s just better regulated. I’ve lived in a few countries with socialized healthcare, and we still pay insurance. It’s just a lot less since we don’t have to cover ever-increasing insurance profits, and there is no such thing as “out of network” as long as you don’t leave the country (and the rest of the EU).

My premium is 116 EUR for full coverage per month, with no maximum coverage or any other fees, and every healthcare institution in the EU is going to treat me for that in an emergency, for no additional charge. If I need extended treatment, I will get transported to the institution that’s most convenient for me (and thus, the system), and be treated there. Dental, mental healthcare included.

I still pay for some OTC medicine, but prices are kept low.

root,

Your premium is 116 EUR per month, plus the taxes people pay – which are much higher in those countries.

You have also traded your freedom.

The UK is currently talking about banning tobacco entirely in the name of reducing health costs despite it being a part of many cultures ceremonies and traditions. New York is still trying to control soda sizes in the name of public health. Canada now offers suicide as an option for people who would have a long (and costly) treatment with low probability of improving health.

Pretty soon you’re setting a death age because old people use most of the healthcare. They make a Star Trek TNG episode about this. en.wikipedia.org/…/Half_a_Life_(Star_Trek:_The_Ne…

maynarkh,

Your premium is 116 EUR per month, plus the taxes people pay – which are much higher in those countries.

Nope, our system is exactly like the US system, except properly regulated. It’s still private insurance, I pay a private company for medical insurance and make claims when I need to use the system. We just didn’t let the industry grow as a cancer on people.

You have also traded your freedom.

What freedom did I trade away?

About the taxes, yes, I might pay more of them, but at the same time when I got burned out by my workplace, I could leave, get mental healthcare, rest, and get back into work on my own terms. I had no financial problems from doing any part of this whatsoever. What is that if it’s not freedom?

I lead a happy and easy life. I am not rich by any means, I have a middle class existence, but can pay for nice travel holidays, hobbies, whatever. I don’t know what exactly the US could give me except a constant anxiety from guns being everywhere, school shootings, a semi-fascistic government sliding further and further into tyrannny, and no public services whatsoever.

The UK is currently talking about banning tobacco entirely

The US is “talking about” stopping the whole democracy charade and installing a dictator. The fact that it’s being talked about by a few members of the government does not make it inevitable or even likely.

New York is still trying to control soda sizes in the name of public health.

I hope so! I mean, I don’t think that anyone should be prevented in going home, making a huge soda and dying of sugar overdose, but it is nobody’s interest to be served one litre soda cups just so that they can feel how “generous” McDonald’s is while they get addicted to sugar.

Canada now offers suicide as an option for people who would have a long (and costly) treatment with low probability of improving health.

While the US just bankrupts them and leaves the suicide part to them. Also, are you bringing up an example of a state not providing adequate care to justify abolishing all socialized healthcare altogether?

flying_sheep,
@flying_sheep@lemmy.ml avatar

It’s not magic, but there will never be a life saving treatment that ruins you financially here in the EU. And travel insurance is dirt cheap here as well.

werefreeatlast,

The only time I call is at home to my kids to get the trash out. Phones are a dying tech.

____,

I work for a company that is “all in” on AI. And offshoring. But AI is unlikely to provide second or third level support for complex and poorly documented software that operates at the intersection of legislation and rule making.

Add to that, customers who are licensed in their field but cannot comprehend that software implementation of paper forms requires the same inputs generally, much less explain their objective…

Also, the implementations I’ve been presented with as a consumer have been hot garbage.

The front line folks who exist primarily so customers can yell at someone might be in trouble. But companies who put their people in that position are shit anyway.

bitwolf,

Great so customer service will soon become 10x worse.

FiniteBanjo,

If by “Decimate” you mean “Reduce by a tenth” then it’s already happened.

Mrkawfee,

Once I learned the meaning of decimate It really grates seeing it used as a synonym for “wipes out”

Hadriscus,

Oh, I thought it meant “divided by ten”?

ours,

It refers to a punishment for bad performance in ancient Roman armies: 1 in ten soldiers was killed.

FiniteBanjo,

nah

yuki2501,
@yuki2501@lemmy.world avatar

says CEO

Since when do CEOs do things because they’re actually useful and not because they want to cut costs at the expense of the workers and even the public?

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