node815,
@node815@lemmy.world avatar

In one way, I’m happy this is happening, in another way, I’m not - I’ve given well over 2 decades of my life to the call center way of living. Let me give you a sneak peak into what really happens in the daily life of a call center worker.

  • You live by the time on your telephone, it’s your punch in and punch out system in most centers. Don’t clock in more than 8 or 15 or whatever insane metrics they set past your clock in time else you will be considered tardy. This includes all breaks and clocking out.
  • If you are a first contact person and taking phone orders, your ‘talk time’ is measured. Anything more than the standardized 5 or 6 minutes is considered excessive and they tell you to move the calls along faster.
    If you are customer service, your talk time is loosened but you are also the first and last contact the customer should have for the issue.
  • Your phone calls are monitored and/or recorded (For Real!). If you are like me and hate to your your voice, woe be it to you when they play back your last call or two so you can hear yourself talking to the customer. If not recorded, then it is up to the monitoring person to be nice. You are then told what you need to do to speed up your talk time, or increase sales etc…

Telemarketing

Oh dear God, this is a life sucker and has the highest turnover on jobs. You quickly learn more about human nature in an odd sense. The sheer pressure on booking that next sale is insanely high and if you don’t meet the sales minimums for the day or even hour, you are sent home without pay. I worked for a company which sold HR Manual trials, I was never more relieved and happy to be fired when I was for not making the per-requisite sales quotas for the half day.

TIPS

I don’t think I’ve encountered a single call center rep in my years of service where a CSR decided that today, they would be a jerk. All we ever want to do is get through the day and earn our wages and go home.

One thing I will say with confidence, is everyone you work with has something in common, you aren’t there necessarily because you enjoy it, you are there because it puts food on the table and beats living off of unemployment benefits. It’s a thankless job.

If you receive great service from a call center rep (CSR) and are happy, politely ask to speak with their supervisor and when you do, be sure to leave them a good review. It doesn’t always help to do this after a bad call, but sometimes rebounding to a new agent by calling the company back and asking for a supervisor will make a big difference if you take issue with them about the poor quality of service you received.

Remember, if you can’t resolve an issue with a CSR, It’s not always that they don’t want to resolve the issue for you, their hands are probably tied and in fear of losing their job or being reprimanded, they simply won’t budge.

Kindness goes a long way with us as well, if you are respectful and kind, we reflect the same back to you and often have tools at our disposal to grant you an extra discount and/or savings. We genuinely want to see you happy!

ON THE OTHER HAND

If putting AI in front of the call centers will help screen out the most common issues, then by all means do it. Also, if the stupid bean counters out there which insist of outsourcing to third world countries as it’s cheaper, can find it to be more cost effective to use AI, and keep the jobs local to their country of operation, then I’m in favor of it.

palordrolap,

There are already stories about companies being sued because their AI gave advice that caused the customer to act in a manner detrimental to themselves. (Something about 'plane flight refunds being available if I remember correctly).

Then when they contacted the company to complain (perhaps get the promised refund), they were told that there was no such policy at their company. The customer had screenshots. The AI had wholesale hallucinated a policy.

We all know how this is going to go. AI left, right and centre until it costs companies more in AI hallucination lawsuits than it does to employ people to do it.

And all the while they'll be bribing lobbying government representatives to make AI hallucination lawsuits not a thing. Or less of a thing.

asdfasdfasdf,

On the other hand, are you implying that human call center workers are accurate with what they tell customers and that when they make mistakes the companies will own up to them and honor them?

zbyte64,

I mean that’s generally how it is now. If a rep lied to me then you better believe I’m talking to the manager and going to extract some concession. The difference is you can hold a rep accountable, dunno how you do that with AI

ikidd,
@ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

Will the AI not hang up on me when I ask it a question that’s going to take a long time to resolve and fuck up it’s service metrics?

I’ve gone through like 3 service reps in a single problem because the call mysteriously drops after I outline the issue. “Could you hold please?” — click

beefbot,

I promise you 1) this real-world event will fail to be scrubbed from the training data & 2) it will be regurgitated as a valid event that saves the company money.

So yes. That will happen again :/

ikidd,
@ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

Dammit, you probably aren’t wrong…

We’re doomed.

beefbot,

Dammit, you probably aren’t wrong either.

baatliwala,

Extremely ironical that they used an AI generated pie chart in the article that couldn’t even distinguish the colours between choices

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/67ac9459-8957-4d15-ad81-b1e271a633c4.jpeg

NikkiDimes,

I think that was probably a conscious decision made to differentiate between agree and non-agree votes.

Dark_Arc,
@Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg avatar

As a colorblind person … this is a teachable moment for what we go through with all kinds of charts and video games lol

(and yes, it’s this bad, and yes it happens A LOT)

Pat_Riot,
@Pat_Riot@lemmy.today avatar

If only the word decimate could be used correctly…

rottingleaf,

I’ve explained that it means “reduce by 10%” once, got a long rant that in the modern language it means what people mean when using it. Linguistically correct, but heresy.

AMillionMonkeys,
@AMillionMonkeys@lemmy.world avatar

It’s a real dilemma.

Buttons,
@Buttons@programming.dev avatar

It’s been a couple decades since I worked in a call center (tech support).

Are they still dominated by shitty ticketing systems that employees are expected to fill out while being on the call? I don’t know if that was just an oddity of the call center I worked for or not. If I didn’t fill out a ticket correctly we wouldn’t get paid for the tech support, so management would get real upset if you didn’t fill out a ticket correctly. There were like 400 fields to fill out in a ticket and you had to fill out about 15 of them just right; fill out one too many, or one too few, or the wrong one and management is upset.

Honestly, language models would do better filling out those tickets than they would handling the call. If an AI can’t fill out the ticket, how can it solve an actual problem? It would sure make life for the call center employees better if all they had to do was talk instead of managing a bunch of tickets and paperwork using shitty internal apps. But who am I kidding. They’ll probably find a way to make life worse for the customers and the call center employees and they’ll make a profit, because that’s how free markets work, right? Whoever makes life worse for everyone prospers.

Kuma,
@Kuma@lemmy.world avatar

I am with you. We should use the ai as a tool to automate or remove things that is frustrating or in the way of the actual goal to help the customers. Plus I don’t think any model is good enough (yet) to act as tech support (they can use open ai if it was enough). I think ai is great as a tool tho. For example you can use it to go through a lot of documents of products, policies, other tickets and so on so the tech support person can find the relevant information faster. We can also use ai to create summerise of the call or take notes and so on. A lot of great potential to make everyone happier but I don’t believe in replacing actual ppl.

realitista,

I work for the largest contact center tech firm, and I’m sure it won’t be this year. There are major issues to be solved. The companies that acted first had cars sold for $1, entirely new offers made up that they had to honor, and their bots made poems full of swear words about how shitty their companies were. I’m not sure how long it will take for gen ai to take over but some major issues need to be solved first and I don’t see much progress being made on those.

beefbot,

Ahh, laziness, impatience, and hubris! This is hilarious (“if true”, obv) & 100% unsurprising

uzay,

I think they should start with decimating the CEO industry

zbyte64,

But we’re supposed to be training AI to be smarter, not dumber.

MakePorkGreatAgain,

really hope so - my work’s ServiceDesk is based in India and they’re barely functional - nothing gets fixed until the problem gets passed to an American IT person.

echodot,

It’s a revolving door anyway. I think the average length of time somebody works for a company in the industry is 7 months.

Besides the jobs that AI will take over will be the higher paid ones because inevitably that will result more value for money. Low wage employees are less of a burden for a company and so there is less incentive to replace them.

beefbot,

7 months lol. Thou underestimathe* the rejuvenating power of drifting from one dead soul call center to the next and the next and

beefbot,

*sic

Usernameblankface,
@Usernameblankface@lemmy.world avatar

It seems to be a soul-crushing job. Better to give it to the bots who have no soul.

echodot,

Have you spoken to AI, it’s way too ethical for corporations , it’ll give everyone discounts

Reality appears to be the exact opposite of the movies. It’s the AI that’s been nice

teamevil,

AI: what do you need

Me: Talk to a human

AI: okay, so I can help get the right help what specifically do you need?

Me: to talk to a human

ad infinitum

NeptuneOrbit,

Me: divide by 0

Ai: OK you are the new CEO. Which sales slates would you like to run next week?

oxlikesmath,

It’s about damn time.

Hildegarde,

We should instead be using AI to decimate the CEO industry.

deafboy,
@deafboy@lemmy.world avatar

Well, the world is your oyster… Can’t wait for yout chief automated officer.

edit: There was a similar hype back in the blockchain era, where people were trying to build decentralized organizations by making all the shareholders directly vote on every decision. Let’s just say this model wasn’t especially successful except for very rare circumstances.

mox, (edited )

I need “shibboleet.”

xkcd.com/806/

(Don’t forget to read the hover text.)

popekingjoe,
@popekingjoe@lemmy.world avatar

Holy shit yes please.

AtariDump,

Mobile link that shows alt text:

m.xkcd.com/806/

tearsintherain,
@tearsintherain@leminal.space avatar

India is def going to take a hit to their economy.

Deceptichum,
@Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works avatar

Couldn’t have happened to a nicer bunch of fascists.

TimeSquirrel,
TimeSquirrel avatar

As a large language model, I've been trying to reach you about your car's extended warranty.

VirtualOdour,

But also first language information systems are a real problem in India especially with government services. These tools are gong to make it much easier to provide vital services and connect people to the appropriate services.

zbyte64,

Is there a phrase to describe the when a programmer thinks what is needed is something “easy” when the problem requires something “simple” instead?

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