Annoyed_Crabby,

Have to admit i don’t quite agree with telling people you’ll skin them alive, it’s fucking rude you fucking cunt.

Agent641,

Ill wait until you’ve died first.

Socsa,

But only if it puts the lotion on its skin.

ZoopZeZoop,

Oi, you cunt rot! Don’t tell me what’s fucking rude, you festering penis wrinkle.

Evil_Shrubbery,

penis wrinkle

A pp roll

Annoyed_Crabby,

Have to admit i don’t really know how to swear like an irish

ZoopZeZoop,

You don’t have to admit anything, you incestuous turnip of flatulence. Your exhales are responsible for 99% of the world’s cases of leprosy.

(But I love you)

strawberry,

have to admit, incestuous turnip is not something I'd ever thought I'd read

ZoopZeZoop,

You should have more realistic expectations when browsing social media, you ever-moistening boil upon the sluttiest troll’s ass.

strawberry,

dawg what

ZoopZeZoop,

Did you know that strawberries are the only fruit with seeds on the outside? Of course, in your case instead of seeds it is the non-divergent familial offspring of eye crust and smegma.

Annoyed_Crabby,

Have to admit, i love you too

ZoopZeZoop,

Let’s get married, you daft splinter digging in a taint!

PhlubbaDubba,

Why the parentheses? Doesn’t the above just mean the same thing in Irish?

ZoopZeZoop,

You’re absolutely right, you septic bonfire!

Evil_Shrubbery,

You fucker implying my skin ain’t good enough? That’s probably racists, … maybe, I guess technically?

fibojoly,

I wonder how he’d feel about the 4chans.

Reddfugee42,

They’d skin him alive

EmperorHenry,
@EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

in england, where he’s from, yes.

Because there’s no free speech there.

androogee,

Only if he walks away slower than their rolly gaming chairs.

nac82,

This website is already facing these kinds of issues.

There is a super mod on lemmy.world (jordanlund) who is blatantly manipulating posts with moderation and banning people who call him out.

The dude threatened me directly for calling him on it.

intensely_human,

What kind of manipulations has he done, and how do you know?

invisiblegorilla,

Supermod = super important and everybody should listen.

/s for those that need it

nac82,

Apparently, disagreeing with him and his usage of moderation tools to spread propoganda is ban worthy.

The dude just banned me from 4 different subs he moderates for commenting on his moderation.

intensely_human,

Post what evidence you have. We can’t tolerate this kind of petty tyranny taking root here.

nac82, (edited )

lemm.ee/comment/10005304

My first encounter with them. Where they are spreading misinformation and limiting input of others with moderation action. I start calling them on it there.

lemm.ee/comment/10028496

Here is the thread they start purging for calling their moderation actions out. Idk if there is a way to see deleted comments, but if so, do it. You won’t find anything except for me calling him on his moderation.

Pretty sure one of the comments in there has me providing more links to actual moderation actions.

Just go disagree with the dude on something and start seeing old unrelated comments getting deleted.

Once you call him on it, he will start messing with your old comments in other subs.

invisiblegorilla,

Guy got his first smidge of power and couldn’t handle it.

imaqtpie,
@imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works avatar

Generally when you make these kind of accusations, its polite to provide some evidence of your claims. There is a pretty large gray area that exists when moderating subs like worldnews and politics, so such communities are almost constantly beset with accusations of some type of bias.

Modlogs exist, if he has clearly been manipulating posts then it shouldn’t be hard to find the evidence.

nac82,

I’ve already had this conversation yesterday and provided links. Check my comment history and the mod log, why rely on a biased source provided by me when you can just verify the truth for yourself?

Reddfugee42,

I’m going to tell people a really unfair thing happened to me, then get shitty when concerned people ask for details.

nac82,

Get shitty? I told them not to trust the narrative I’m painting and to self verify against my claims. I also told them the specific locations of where my sourced arguments could be found and rewrote most of it below in a different comment.

Don’t inject your shitty attitude into my comment, please, and thank you.

Reddfugee42,

There it is 😅

nac82,

Hey, look who came crawling back to say nothing of value.

Reddfugee42,

Well when you came crawling forward to offer nothing of value first, I didn’t want to make you go it alone, buddy ❤️😘

imaqtpie,
@imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works avatar

Looks like you had a pointless, circular argument with another user 5 days ago and he nuked the thread because it was going nowhere. I’m okay with that. Then when you brought it up today, a different mod removed some of those comments.

When you say he’s manipulating posts, it implies he has some kind of agenda. If his agenda is to remove unproductive and hostile discussion from the sub, then I support his agenda. You implied it’s some kind of political bias, but I don’t see any evidence of that.

I think he probably just wants you to be more polite in your tone.

nac82,

You are looking at the wrong purged threads. I’m implying he is abusing mod powers for 2 functions.

  1. Is to harrass people he disagrees with. That is the thread you are looking at. There was no rule breaking content, but he wanted to scrub comments from my history and that was 1 session he did it too. There are 3 other subreddits he took action like that against me.
  2. Is his political engagement. He scrubs comments that call out his misinformation as he did in the other thread shared.

I called him on point 2 so he started doing point 1 to me.

imaqtpie,
@imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works avatar

Ok. I am keeping an eye on his behavior.

KeenFlame,

Oh sorry this is intensely cringe

As if anyone can’t decide for themselves how much they fucking say violent or disturbing things

Just a child trying to justify his insecurities

Fint0034,
@Fint0034@lemmy.ml avatar

what was the cola ad again?

ziixe,
@ziixe@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I’ve recently joined Tumblr, and like this has been the best social media I’ve ever joined, just what I asked to be shown, no annoying recommendations that are the complete opposite of what i like or it’s just plain ragebait

The amount of actually nice posts is really cool

And from what I’ve heard their data collection is decent, not a personal data vacuum like other sites

Cryophilia,

They banned porn, and for that they have my undying enmity

Flax_vert,

I think that says more about you than about them

beebarfbadger,

I’d say the fact that they banned porn says about as much about tumblr as having the above poster’s enmity says about them, so I’d go with an even 50/50 on this one.

Flax_vert,

Do you think tumblr banned porn out of prudishness?

yuriy,

they banned porn because they were bought out by the owners of wordpress, and the kerfuffle with credit card companies suddenly refusing payments on pornhub had just happened. the stated reason was so they don’t step in some unseen controversy and get blackballed by mastercard, which is a bit prudish if you ask me.

Flax_vert,

The main problem with porn is moderating it. Especially having to watch something to determine whether or not it’s csam. It’s easier to just ban porn. It’s a big hassle whenever your site isn’t supposed to be a porn site.

yuriy,

and therein lies the crux of the issue. lots of folks who were around before the porn ban would argue that the smut was integral to tumblr’s identity; that the tumblr we have today is just a shadow of what it once was.

Flax_vert,

Wasn’t it a cesspit akin to twitter? I heard that tumblr is actually decent nowadays.

yuriy,

in my experience tumblr was actually a lot better about separating the smutty tags from the general ones for a fandom.

Flax_vert,

There were still a lot of reprobates there who ended up moving to twitter

intensely_human,

… what?

ziixe,
@ziixe@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

If I wanted porn I’d go back to Reddit, I like stuff without it

nac82,

Reddit also pigeonholed their pornographic content.

I see far more poen on Lemmy, especially with how much AI content is posted here.

fibojoly,

The day Lemmy has as much quality nsfw as Reddit or even oldschool Tumblr is the day I quit Reddit. Today is not that day :(

nac82,

I’ve had a lot easier time finding new porn groups here, but you’re right that the content mill over there is faster.

After reddit sold their user content to AI groups and the obvious use of AI for moderation, I’m not interested in reddit.

Shit, my last account was banned for reporting violent content written by others. They said I was abusing the report system lmao.

Literally submitted 5 reports over the lifespan of the account (maybe a year or two old account, not that old). 3 were acted on, and the 4th one was on r/worldnews. The mods of the sub banned me from the sub, then reported it to the admins and had me banned from reddit.

That site sucks ass, I’m hoping to find a better maintained forum, but it’s a pain in the ass nowadays.

Either pure corporate bullshit or some tyranny of lunacy.

Tattorack,
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah… Um… I got Bluesky for that. Tumblr doesn’t allow for adult content. Plenty of artwork I make falls under adult content and is occasionally straight up porn. Many artists I follow also create a mix of SFW and NSFW content. Being on a place like Tumblr essentially means losing nearly half the art i can post or follow. So… No thank you.

gmtom,

It’s because safe tweets gets promoted more and people care about chasing clout.

Fades,

It’s so pathetic

Cryophilia,

I mean this but more importantly, any posts on most social media that are too combative get removed by moderator

Churbleyimyam,

Dude is posting to himself. Look closer.

Jomega,

Twitter and it’s clones have a character limit. This is just how you put a longer message on there.

LesserAbe,
lingh0e,
NigelFrobisher,

He’s posting on a platform that’s dependent on advertising and moderated based on the whims and tantrums of a nepo baby. It’s not going to be an “anything goes” situation.

AVincentInSpace,

Despite what said nepo baby may claim.

Socsa,

Cunt. Fuck. Balls. Barbara Streisand.

nonfuinoncuro,
Evil_Shrubbery,

Those are some really excellent points I agree with, and think the world, for humans included, would be a kinder place.

I sometimes do forget to order people to shut several fucks up, what a bunch of dickish cunts all of them. Well, cuntish dicks too.

DingoBilly,

To be fair, replying with I’ll skin you alive is pretty extreme/completely unnecessary.

There’s reasonable discourse and then there’s just “Fuck you dumb idiot” type responses which add nothing to a conversation.

I’d consider his response pretty childish/immature although a less extreme version of it makes sense.

Tattorack,
@Tattorack@lemmy.world avatar

I shall, with great effort and deliberation, dislodge thy skin from thy corporeal form!

intensely_human,

There are multiple micro cultures within our culture. You are not aware of all of them.

There are circles in which that’s understood to not be a threat of literal skinning.

DingoBilly,

purely based on the context presented, he comes off as extreme and doesn’t properly justify it in his later posts. I’m not going to research every single person’s background I come across, so you can bet this guy comes off as unhinged based on these posts.

intensely_human,

Only to a person who doesn’t embody an understanding of this multi-cultural aspect of the world.

He doesn’t come off as unhinged to me, for instance.

DingoBilly, (edited )

You’re a fucking idiot.

Flax_vert,

I’ll skin you alive

quaddo,

I’m personally more a fan of curses of wicked inconvenience.

Eg, “May you never find the pebble pressing into the sole of your foot, even after you’ve removed your shoe and your sock”

or, “May you always run out of toilet paper when you most need it, every time, no matter where you are”

continues to fantasise about other such curses

sugar_in_your_tea,

Or just… don’t curse people? Attack arguments, not people.

Cryophilia,

Some people need to be laughed out of the room.

sugar_in_your_tea,

Agreed. But that’s different than cursing them. You can laugh someone out of the room by thoroughly attacking their arguments.

intensely_human,

You can laugh someone out of the room by thoroughly attacking their arguments.

Nope, they are two distinct categories of response. Laughing someone out of the room is refusing to engage them with words.

sugar_in_your_tea,

No, that’s what most call “cancelling.”

Laughing someone out of the room is pointing out the absurdity of someone’s arguments. Laughing at someone is just intolerance.

RBWells,

I think you have to know your audience. Hyperbolic threats of violence from someone I know isn’t violent make me laugh, they are not mean, they are funny.

DingoBilly,

I think this quickly goes into bad territory.

It’s very easy to be racist/sexist and then just say “It was a joke bro! Calm down!” as an example.

If you’re making violent “jokes” but saying it’s not real… Well sorry to say but you’re actually just violent and pretending otherwise.

intensely_human,

Yeah thats definitely true. Humans evolved bashing the brains of animals and other humans in. All of civilization is violent people pretending not to be violent.

Including you. You’re violent as fuck in the right situations. And the only thing keeping you from being violent is that fact the people who’ve already had their monsters unleashed, pretending like they’re not monsters.

Not all pretending is clandestine work. Pretending can also be found in theater, and in the concept of work.

It is not a condemnation to say a person is violent and pretending not to be. That’s just what it means to be a civilized adult human.

DingoBilly,

This is a weird take. Not everyone is violent and pretending not to be. I think that’s a gross misrepresentation of humans and not even the right way to justify this.

SteveTech,

Also this guy is kinda known for fairly violent comedy videos, so “I’ll skin you alive” is pretty tame for him.

For example he’s created an ad that ended up being banned by the UK advertising watchdog, twice:

Adverts given the green light by Surfshark included gun violence, child death, and namedropping competitors

Source: indy100

DingoBilly,

This just tells me the guy is actually violent though. If he’s literally getting banned for his stuff then he can say it’s for comedy/meant to be funny, but he’s missing the mark.

Complaining about being censored in this case isn’t really valid as he’s going over the line.

MrQuallzin,

You should actually watch some of his videos then. He’s doesn’t complain about being censored and he fully supports the advertising agency’s rulings. In the violent ones that were “banned” (just cut out of their respective videos), he fully agrees he was pushing the envelope which was entirely his intention.

He says it even better in his video “Dear Surfshark, Please Forgive Me” youtu.be/mono4nHA1QI?si=R40wu5LlEHoZ-cwT

sugar_in_your_tea,

Why should I watch him? He sounds entirely unpleasant, and I’d much rather watch someone who isn’t pushing the envelope.

beardown,

I’d much rather watch someone who isn’t pushing the envelope.

The personality of a housecat

intensely_human,

Chill man. This person’s obviously blind to nuance and they’re only going to get worse if we provoke them.

We can’t afford to let these people just stew in their own misery. People have power, and if we can’t bring this person into the fold for all we know they could be the next hitler or something.

5in1k,

How boring.

MrQuallzin,

You’re taking a couple comments at face value, when the actual creator goes into detail about each one of his ads and the thought process about them. He’s legitimately a great guy and creator who does his best to be respectful with what he does. He’s very upfront that his content isn’t made for kids, including the best content warnings I’ve seen a content creator do on their media.

sugar_in_your_tea,

Perhaps, but nothing I’ve seen mentioned sparks my interest. I’m not a fan of “shock comedy,” and while foul language doesn’t offend me, it also doesn’t interest me.

That said, I’m glad he’s respectful.

MrQuallzin,

The shock comedy is mainly his Surfshark ads, and even then the shock ones are few and far between. They’re mainly just comedy sketches. If you’ve ever seen any of the asdfmovie sketches, that’s him. One of his best videos is his in-depth review of Thomas the Tank Engine.

Couple other favorites from his main channel (Where the higher production skits are) are Let Me In and The Hole.

sugar_in_your_tea,

I haven’t heard of any of those, so I’ll give the Thomas the Tank Engine recommendation a shot.

“Shock comedy” doesn’t appeal to me in itself, but swearing and offensive speech don’t really bother me, provided it fits in context.

intensely_human,

Why should I watch him?

Because you’re making stupid judgments about him based on perceived certainty that your level of knowledge doesn’t warrant, and if you can see with your own eyes that you’re wrong on the calls you’ve made so far it might make you less likely to fall on the wrong side of something when it truly matters, like if you’re on jury duty and have another person’s fate in your hands.

sugar_in_your_tea,

So I should watch him because I don’t know what his content is like? There’s a lot of content I’m unfamiliar with, so much that I can’t possibly watch it all.

So far, nobody has given a compelling reason why I should watch it, and “it’s not as offensive as people claim” isn’t a very strong sales pitch. It’s not a reason to watch it, it’s just a reason to not avoid it, which isn’t the same thing.

So I’ll ask again, why should I watch him? What unique value does he offer over other content?

LinyosT,

Why speculate when you can go and see for yourself what his content is like?

youtube.com/

DingoBilly,

Well it’s not violent from what I can see, but it’s also not funny.

He hasn’t posted in a while though, so I think I’d have to check out what he’s like on twitter to see if he’s turned into some erratic psycho.

MrQuallzin,

That’s his main channel with the higher production skits. There’s also his side channel at youtube.com/ which has a lot of great content as well. If you don’t find him funny, that’s a valid opinion since we have different views on what’s comedic. But assuming he’s turned into some “erratic psycho” is just rude.

DingoBilly,

I’m just going off what he himself has posted.

Ultimately it may be completely out of context, but based purely on the small sample he appears a bit extreme. It’s the problem with small snippets like this, and why you need to be careful with what you post.

intensely_human,

This is a very important key point. I’m a 41 year old conservative who grew up in the rural midwest in the 1980s. I was a teenager during the 90s.

When I cut my teeth on philosophical arguments, learned how to talk deep into the night about disagreements of the complex problems facing humanity, it was in the context of hanging out with my tightest friends from high school and college.

We could say pretty much anything, and because we had each other’s backs in the world, it was easy to fit in lots of potentially-ambiguous messages with confidence they’d be received well.

But online we’re interacting with people outside our social groups, from different cultures. As much as I personally hate it, it may be necessary to sanitize our words here moreso than elsewhere in order to avoid misinterpretation.

It’s just a totally different social context. And for people of my age — again I’m 41, born in 1982, graduated HS in 2000 — it’s a hard transition to comprehend because we did our social formation before online discussion with strangers became a norm.

We had online discussions before, but they were more niche and embedded in more stable communities. I remember being part of a forum around 2005 and I knew the people I was talking to. Not from real life, but from our many, many discussions. Instead of hundreds of millions, that forum had like a thousand members.

So I do think it’s healthy for people in real life to be unafraid to use extremely violent, absurd, insulting language, because that helps people bond. But online it may just not be necessary.

It’s less even about knowing the person directly, as it is about having the same microculture. Like back in the 90s I could assume any teen dressed like me would have roughly the same values and mannerisms as me. Now that’s not the case, because the internet has blurred the associations between different elements of culture.

figjam,

Poo poo pee pee!

ZombieMantis,
@ZombieMantis@lemmy.world avatar

A compelling argument, however:

Rev’s up the skin flayer 9000

fushuan,

Nah, it’s actually about the hyper that makes violent comments okay. Hyperboles are usually used to make something apparent, in this case what’s being made apparent is the irony.

For example: “Hey, can I go to the party?” “No” hard to interpret if it’s a joke “No fucking way dude, if I see you there I’ll fucking raze your household to the ground for 4 generations” < this is such an exaggeration that is simply can’t be true, which in turn implies that yeah, they can come.

Of course, for it to be effective that must sound completely impossible to the listener, and as always context is important. Of the context of my hyper violent message is that I’m talking to my friends, they will know I’m joking.

intensely_human,

Yeah but that requires people to be willing to exercise their brains during communication.

We’ve got a whole generation now who sees sarcasm as universally hostile behavior.

DingoBilly,

Sure, but he’s had a lot of words to explain its hyperbole and he hasn’t yet.

So purely based on the context presented, he comes off as extreme and doesn’t properly justify it in his later posts. I’m not going to research every single person’s background I come across, so you can bet this guy comes off as unhinged based on these posts.

Ephera,

In Tumblr culture, these hyperviolent responses aren’t made at the end of a heated argument, but rather meant tongue-in-cheek.

For example, imagine one person posts “love pineapple on pizza”. Then another person responds “Do not dare to put pineapple on pizza or I’ll skin you!”.

It expresses that the second person has strong opinions about pineapple on pizza, but hopefully everyone involved knows that it’s an empty threat (because everyone is anonymous on Tumblr) and that it’s not meant serious at all.

intensely_human,

Perhaps it is banning porn that allows tumblr to let language off the leash.

The_Lopen,

Tumblr culture is all-around an assault on my senses.

kibiz0r,

Creative cursing may become a valuable skill for proving that you’re not a chatbot.

But then we’ll make chatbots that are good at cursing. So that’ll be a fun stage of tech dystopia at least.

Buddahriffic,

If it’s on the internet, LLMs have been trained on it. They can already curse.

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