Parents of over 900 Israeli soldiers urge IDF to call off ‘death trap’ Rafah attack

wahming, 14 days ago

Shame it’s only THEIR children they give a damn about

Land_Strider, 14 days ago

Although the topics of Israeli people protesting and complaining to their genocidal government about their loved ones being hostages or put through this madness on conscription are understandable and very human, I don’t understand why there are no sizeable protests against the genocide their army is committing.

I can think of a few reasons, one being not considering the Palestinians as people, which is plausible when your state has been an ethnostate for so long, as we can see a world history full of the precedents. The information age was supposed to reduce this extreme mass brainwashing and propaganda, but we can see the contrary happen with huge scandalous exposes every year.

The other being forced by the state to stay silent about it, which is pretty much a basic telltale of tyranny in reporting many countries’ affairs, but for some reason does not occur when Israel is mentioned, because they still do elections, right? Well, Russia can’t have the same 20+ years of elected president, that is fishy and undemocratic, but Israel can have for the better part of the same duration?

The “us and them” mentality around Israel is so crooked that a sane person either has to condemn the whole population for being behind Bibi, or have to call the state as frequently, severely and prominently a rogue and tyrannical one as befitting many others that are currently being called so. Humane and the more probable option would be the latter, but when that is also being derided as anti-semitic, what do you do within the limits of understanding and compromise?

Dagnet, 14 days ago

Man, when I was studying in the US there was this girl from Israel, she was super sweet and nice, very extroverted. During a party she shared her Facebook and a someone noticed she had a picture with a gun and she talked about how she had to go through training for a year and even showed us how she could carry the heaviest guy there using what she learned.

The one guy asked her about Palestinians (why, just why). I swear I never saw someone change her demeanor so quickly. The sweet woman became pure hatred in one second, she started talking how they were less than human, murderers, just pure evil and should wiped off the face of the earth, how they were the reason she and other young people had to go through compulsory military training. That was one wild thing to see, and it was clear that hatred was passed down to her since she was young and didn’t seem to have gone through much.

Land_Strider, 14 days ago

This alienation is what gets me. Yes, there is organic and there is fabricated propaganda all over the world, all peoples and cultures have some sort of conflict with another, in the past or ongoing. That will get passed down, to some extent, every generation. But what is the thought process in declining to give the benefit of the doubt to a whole people with very different individuals, some of them are kids, young men and women in their blooming years, going through the same personal problems such as this girl you mention. Do they consider all of them inhuman, even when reminded with the reality of the diverse population? How do they justify thinking this? Do they consider those kids to be future Hamas fighters only? Do they consider those women Hamas breeders only? How can someone have their own lives and be able to understand their societal group at that moment, but not be able to apply the same solidarity to the same civilian that hates the idea of conscription on the other side of a border? If they decide to not apply this solidarity, or at least the thought of giving the same class of individual a benefit of the doubt they would seek themselves if they were on the receiving side of a gun, how do they consider their actions and thoughts to be the right ones?

anlumo, 14 days ago

“Our children are tired of all the slaughtering, they need a break.”

TheBananaKing, 14 days ago

Oh no, some nazis could get hurt

RedAggroBest, 14 days ago

Yea fuck them! They should just walk in and… butcher Palestinians?

Even if they aren’t coming to the conclusion for the right reasons we shouldn’t shame the people trying to stop violence

Neato, 14 days ago

Here I thought they were going to be sympathetic to the obvious genocide. Nope. They’re just worried about it being a trap.

TheOctonaut, 14 days ago

It’s the same with the protests. “Why is this taking so long”, not “why are we wiping out Palestinians”.

Dagnet, 14 days ago

Everytime we see anything anti war on Israel side it’s always people worried about soldier or hostages, at least from what I can tell. No a shred of worry for the Palestinians.