some_guy,

Israel lies constantly. Fuck Israel.

sirboozebum,

This claim has a strong WMD vibe to it.

Deceptichum,
Deceptichum avatar

This marks 3 separate news sources all saying there is no evidence. Sources MBFC claims range from left to right, all sides agree.

JustZ, (edited )

They aren’t saying there is no evidence, because they would be patently false. They are saying the claims are “unproven.”

The US Sec State said the classified intelligence provided to the US was “highly credible” and the house and the house vice chair of foreign affairs said it was “irrefutable.”

It included phone meta data, location data, texts, and social media posts and messages.

Rapidcreek,

February 3rd, so before today’s events

Deceptichum,
Deceptichum avatar

Before they found an Hamas branded electrical storage tunnel?

Zero evidence before, still zero evidence now.

Rapidcreek,

The media were given a tour

wurzelgummidge,

The media were given a curated tour of the things the IDF want the outside world to believe.

FTFY

Rapidcreek,

I think that’s something for the media to figure out.

eskimofry,

They already figured you and other Israel apologists spout bulkshit

Rapidcreek,

Is this sup0osed to cut me to the core?

eskimofry,

You’re a heartless POS so it probably won’t.

Rapidcreek,

Well thanks. I see you met my former wife.

eskimofry,

Listen man. There’s no way that anybody can justify what Israel is doing in Gaza, regardless of the Oct 7 attacks. I am just baffled that people are eating up IDF propaganda. That people support hamas is a nice strawman created to justify carpet bombing the strip.

It’s quite telling when UN didn’t verify the evidence from IDF BEFORE sacking UNRWA members and suspending funding.

Every criticism of Israel is met with “Antisemitism!” as if bombing Gaza is a jewish tradition.

Rapidcreek,

Listen man. There is no way you can justify terrorism on civilians as a legitimate form of resistance against oppression.

Further, just because someone doesn’t think like you do doesn’t mean that you’re their enemy or even that they’re wrong. So there no reason to get all squared up when ther is something you disagree with.

I’ve yet to criticize you as you have me, but I could start if you like.

eskimofry,

I am not justifying terrorism. I literally argued that those who say so are deliberately conflating what Israel is doing RIGHT NOW vs. What happened on oct 7.

It’s fine if you don’t think like me but don’t lie about stuff I said in the comments.

You have already criticized me by saying I am justify terrorism. I am finding it difficult to suspend my disbelief that you are arguing in good faith.

Deceptichum,
Deceptichum avatar

From tour they gave at Al-Shifa "HQ tunnel" that never turned up anything substantial

CNN analysis: Video suggests IDF might have rearranged weaponry at Al-Shifa prior to news crew visits

From the tour they gave at the graveyard

Israel claims a tunnel ran through this Gaza cemetery it destroyed. A visit to the site raised more questions than answers

But this tour is super duper legit!

Rapidcreek,

Point is the media hasnt seen it before this was written.

Deceptichum,
Deceptichum avatar

Point is the media has seen the last two times Israel fabricated evidence to present to the media.

Point is the original claim against the UNWRA was based on ZERO evidence as now verified by 3 independent media sources on all sides of the political spectrum.

Rapidcreek,

OK

JustZ,

You’re lying. IDF gave the intelligence to the US and briefed multiple agencies and Congress.

girlfreddy,
@girlfreddy@lemmy.ca avatar

It has been proven the IDF lies. So in this context you’re the one lying.

JustZ,

That’s the logic of like a five year old.

Keeping intelligence classified is not the same as lying. You think the IDF gave their Intel to America and what, tricked the FBI, tricked the CIA, and tricked the Sec State, tricked the DNI, and tricked the foreign affairs committee, using forged evidence, but they didn’t trick you. You know the actual truth?

You realize that sounds insane right?

girlfreddy,
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