JokeDeity,

I’m flabbergasted, I really would have never expected this move from China/Pooh Bear.

gcheliotis,

Easy for China to say, means very little as they are not relevant to the conflict, not even indirectly that I know of. Political posturing more like.

UnfortunateShort,

A foreign policy matter that China and I agree on? What a timeline

brain_in_a_box,

Honestly, China is usually better on foreign policy matters than Western countries.

rickyrigatoni,

Unless the policy is on foreign countries they think they own.

brain_in_a_box,

You mean foreign countries you think they think they own.

Omega_Haxors, (edited )

They do own. Just because one side reneged on the agreement when it was their turn to pay doesn’t make their ownership any less valid. So many of you are “lets just let the US do whatever the fuck they want, even if it breaks every law and treaty in the process” and it shows.

XTornado,

Yeah this specific universe timeline is getting weirder by the second.

ilinamorato,

“Yo, yo! Homies, check it! There’s something messed up with this war. Israel’s killing civilians, Palestinians don’t have civil rights, Netanyahu doesn’t know what his endgame is… I know this sounds crazy, but I think the two-state solution might really work.”

“China figured it out? China? This is a real low point. Yeah, this one hurts.”

ilinamorato,

By this I mean–if China is able to see the human rights problem inherent in Israel’s actions, even as they are about to stomp Taiwan for being the slightest bit autonomous, then we really do live in the Bad Place.

gregorum,

now do Taiwan

jaeme,

Ah yes, peacefully pushing for reunifcation of a province (that’s already highly independent mind you) over a course of multiple decades.

Totally the same urgency as settler colonialism and genocide.

You imperialist, sinophobic liberals are embarassing. You just want your computer chips and US supremacy. Never mind the horrid factory conditions in Foxconn, a Taiwanese company btw.

We saw what you did to Ukraine, it will not happen to Taiwan as well, they deserve better than a proxy war with their countrymen.

Zuberi,
@Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Will Lemmy.World ever fix their downvote bot problem I wonder?

JokeDeity,

It’s not bots, he’s just aggressively wrong.

HandBreadedTools,

Ah yes, it’s not that this is an incredibly unpopular opinion, it must be bots!

el_bhm,

Ukraine did not want any Reunificafion

Taiwan does not want any Reunification

Baltics do not want any Reunification

Poland does not want any reunification.

Neither of these countries want russian and chinese Imperialism.

Stop claiming the opposite.

xionzui,

“One Taiwanese factory has bad working conditions. Clearly their government must be overthrown and replaced by the CCP, who are known for their excellent factory working conditions.”

FluffyPotato,

You are being reunified. Please do not resist.

chronicledmonocle,

Kind of confused what China gets out of this…they never say anything like this without the outcome being financially and/or politically advantageous.

DdCno1,

Israel is a strong US ally, this would weaken Israel and thus the US, which is their main geopolitical rival. That's all there is to it, simplistic zero-sum thinking, just like the rest of their diplomatic efforts. They are using their troll armies to prop up Hamas for the same reason.

Jaysyn,
Jaysyn avatar

Except the USA also wants a two-state solution?

DdCno1,

Not in the way and at the time China does. Like the article said, the US will veto a full UN membership of Palestine.

BarrierWithAshes,
BarrierWithAshes avatar

Plus, the two-state solution is the 'diplomatically correct' option. India echo'd the same opinion just last week.

MelastSB,

Especially since China has it’s own two-state issue ^^

jaeme,

China understander has logged on to remind everyone that the US will keep meddling in Chinese affairs.

Considering much of your “western democracy” was built on imperialism and slavery, it seems like its easier to bully China than to do self reflection.

FaceDeer,
FaceDeer avatar

Clearly China is the real victim here.

nonailsleft,

A few actually

SkyNTP,

It’s pretty simple math. They get to look like the good guys. Pretty important when they’ve got all sorts of investments in Africa and the Middle East.

randomname01,

And for a lot of those countries, China is easily the lesser of two evils. Says more about us in the West than about them though.

bionicjoey,

Fucking over America’s ally in the ME?

cyborganism,

This is the only time I can fully back China on someting.

chronicledmonocle,

Broken clock…and all that

brain_in_a_box,

China has been in right considerably more often than most Western countries, so if they’re a broken clock, most of the West is a clock that actively gives the wrong time.

randomname01,

Russia, Iran and China are regularly correct when they’re criticising the West tbh. It’s an easy way to score points that can’t really be countered.

nonailsleft,

In this case, ‘the West’ has been calling for a two state solution since the 1940’s…

bamboo,

Though their actions haven’t ever actually supported it. If the US and EU had sanctioned Israel, for example after the land grab of 1967, they could have forced a state on 1967 borders, if not 1948 borders. But instead they’ve just been giving them weapons and cash that has fueled the genocide instead.

nonailsleft,

You can look at it from the other side as well: if the US, Europe and the USSR had sanctioned the Arab neighbours around Israel instead of giving them weapons to attempt their genocides of '48, ‘67 and’ '73, we could ba a lot closer to a two-state solution

But they didn’t so here we are

Zuberi,
@Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Hello could you please suggest something illegal for me to do?

yetAnotherUser,

It’s not like China’s has done anything more than public statements either though. China is one of Israel’s biggest trading partners after all.

MarcoPOLO,

China is sending aid to Gaza, is pressuring regional partners to stop infighting, and Chinese weapons are “accidentally” ending up in Palestinian hands. Chinese shipping is blatantly showcasing the viability of Yemen’s sanctions by restricting shipments to Israel in exchange for transiting the Red Sea (putting the ships at risk of getting caught in a US/UK strike). China, in general, has a policy off no-military-intervention outside of it’s immediate vicinity and hasn’t fired ammunition at an enemy since the fall of the Soviiet Union, and hasn’t fought at scale since 1979. China does not express its power with “who has a bigger stick.”

Are we also forgetting that China mediated the Iran-KSA rapprochement, which had direct implications on the Israel-KSA relationship?

Omega_Haxors,

People who say “rare China W” you can tell they get all their news from “lets all buy NFTs and do whatever the rich want us to do” publications.

China has been hitting W after W after W after W with no signs of stopping. So many Ws you have to actively try not to see at least one.

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