Friendly reminder that XULRunner, the standalone Gecko runtime that once powered web-based applications like Songbird and that was abandoned by Mozilla Corporation has been revived and now builds atop Goanna. Learn more at the Pale Moon forums announcement: https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=30913
#CloudFlare is again having trouble working on browsers other than the few they mainly target.
Now did they just decide not to support anything else in "Turnstile" (which is a departure from "Browser Integrity Check", which IIRC had fallbacks), or are they again requiring that all requests include headers only some browsers send?
Affects at least #SeaMonkey and #PaleMoon, and isn't so easy to debug given the minified and changing JS of turnstile (likely intended, but doesn't help here...).
A reminder that #CSSnesting is still a working draft in the #W3C under the #CSSWG. Please mind #webcompat when using this relatively new feature. IOW, don't make your #CSS break because you assumed everyone right now is using the latest version of #Chrome / #Chromium, #Firefox, #Safari, or #Edge. They might not even be using a mainstream #browser to visit your website (I am using #PaleMoon for example)... :seija_coffee:
God, #Gentoo users are such insufferable people...
elected to bundle an old version [of libwebp]
Really? This PoS makes it sound like #PaleMoon had a choice to not bundle third-party libs.
Hey asshole, maybe you've forgotten that Pale Moon is not just a Linux browser, but also a Windows and macOS one. Tell me how your beloved system libs will help those platforms, you smartass
@withoutclass@mima#Gentoo is just full of insane people obsessed with the tiniest bits of optimizations that ultimately don't matter and can even be harmful. You don't understand as you don't deal every other week with people from this distro asking you for support in the software you develop only to find out that their batshit insane build configuration is the culprit to their problem and therefore wasting time for everyone involved.
Now there are definitely a few people who are pretty fine I'm sure. I can respect those in Gentoo involved in the OpenRC project for example. Unfortunately they're a very small minority.
Until the Gentoo community as a whole gets rid of this weird and harmful obsession of optimizing at all costs, and actually starts respecting developer intent when compiling software, Gentoo will continue to give me a bad impression.
@job@mima there's a broad lesson in there about vocal minorities IMO.
While I can empathize with the situation you may be in and the very real mental suffering you experience as a result of the actions of others, generalizing all the users of Gentoo is an error.
Even the handbook, the thing that users first encounter, says that many optimizations end up doing more harm than good :)
Anyone working on a new browser engine?
Something that's definitely not Chromium.
I quite like Goanna and WebKit. Wish both had more devs behind it. Goanna is very light on resources though, but can struggle with these 6 TB perpetual JavaScript websites of today. #goanna#palemoon#luakit#Epiphany#Gnome
@fatboy There's Basilisk, which backports Firefox to C code, and also Ladybird, from SerenityOS, it can load complex sites too and its very lightweight... Also, Neosurf at CobaltBSD's repo, which is a fork of Netsurf