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AwkwardTurtle

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Photonics Engineer by day, indie RPG writer by night, especially interested in open/CC games.

See my stuff here: awkwardturtle.games

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Thank you! I have next to nil artistic ability, so I actually really surprised myself by managing to make something I actually liked with these labels.

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The bochet and berry meads aren’t doing anything super out of the ordinary (well, out of the ordinary if you’re already caramelizing your honey) but the Strawberry Lemonade one is weird enough that I keep meaning to do a full write up about it.

Just gotta actually get around to setting up a blog or website or something so I can host it someplace useful.

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Yeah, I don’t know if that tracks. Wingspan has sold more than 1.3 million copies (as of September 2021) which is way way way more than the average board game sells.

I’d far more believe that they couldn’t keep up with production than they were intentionally limiting supply.

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I will strongly recommend people interested in open licenses look to the existing, more mature licenses, Creative Commons in particular.

The “unresolvable problems” that Paizo ran into with CC are actually very resolvable. If you don’t want a sticky, viral license, use CC-BY. If you do want a sticky license, but not for your whole game, split out a separate SRD and put that under CC-BY-SA.

Fresh batch of limoncello and lemon peel powder. (lemmy.ca)

Second try at making limoncello; the peels were infused for 8 weeks in a locally distilled 45% gin. Used a coffee filter to filter out any impurities, and I think I trapped too much of the oils… leading to a crystal-clear liqueur, rather than the cloudy-neon-yellow I was going for. Oh well. Next time I’ll get actual...

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Ooo, fantastic. I’ve been doing sugar extractions of lemon zest for a mead recently, and we tried drying and blitzing the zests after filtering.

For us the powder was nice (partly because it got a bit candied during the process) but fairly mild in taste. I think it could still absolutely be fun to use to sprinkle on desserts of drinks, for visuals if nothing else.

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The nice part is that (almost) nothing in the actual rules is changing. Instead it’s clarified rules, expanded explanations, extra options, character backgrounds a la Electric Bastionland, and such.

It’s not replacing 1E, it’s just more of it.

Plus a nice to hold hardcover print, for those of us that have a sickness where the only cure is more nice looking TTRPG books to put on our shelves.

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Having recently tried the filtering thing, it’s still a roll of the dice unless you’re using the much more expensive professional grade filters.

It does get your mead clear as hell though, and removes a ton of off flavors.

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Also if you use The Estate box set you have a nice, episodic little campaign pre-built for Mausritter. It’s a small hex crawl with a bunch of pamphlet adventures scattered around them, complete with hooks to tie them all together.

Might be a good ongoing structure, especially if you have an inconsistent group, or intend to be swapping GMs periodically.

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Nice! A surprising amount of overlap with out own coffee station!

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Our kettle actually partially died a few months ago, had a long debate about what we should replace it with before I realized the contacts on the base had just gotten bent out of place.

A buddy of mine printed the robot mittens for me, and even managed to track down a paint that nearly perfectly matches the color. I absolutely love them. How do you like the metal ones?

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I ran the first level of ASE (plus the gatehouse mini level) using a slightly modified Electric Bastionland a while ago. We had a great time, super fun to explore. But when my players find a way down to the second floor and I read ahead to see what was coming up it got, for my money, a bit too ridiculous.

We talked it over as a group and ended up dropping the campaign to do something else.

What we played was a ton of fun, and just that first book is a very significant chunk of dungeon crawling, but I just didn’t want to run the weird clowns and such that the second floor introduces. Went from wacky and fun, to just over the top weird.

My one criticism of the first floor is that most of the “factions” are intrinsically hostile and non-trivial to try and communicate or parlay with. Sort of ran against the the usual mega-dungeon faction play, but it wasn’t hard to tweak on the fly to make things work better.

How many RPG books are too many?

I just had a moment where I downsized my RPG book collection. Do you ever weed out your collection? I find myself becoming a bit of a headless chicken, sometimes more interested in what the promise is that a book might hold, rather than diving in deep into the ones I already have. This superficial engagement with many books I...

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I’ve almost certainly go too many books, but for me RPG books are two things:

  • Something I do or plan to use the actual contents of. Whether that be rules, tools, or adventures.
  • Physical objects that are nice to look at and hold.

Happily the indie RPG scene is very good at making books that cover both of those categies. I will once in a while go through the collection and give away books that I both don’t think I’ll ever use, and also aren’t nice enough as objects to be worth keeping around.

I also have a number of magazine bins filled with zines, which I love but also desperately needs to be pared down.

Also because I will take any opportunity to share a shelfie:

Desk RPG shelf of “close to hand” stuff (and also tall books because they don’t fit on the other shelves).

https://beehaw.org/pictrs/image/27e6364a-15ba-4f79-90b1-d5da6eebb153.jpeg

Ancillary bookshelf of RPG stuff:

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WALLET STATIONS - Video walk through of pocket sized, die drop, location generator! (www.youtube.com)

Ithaquas Bane, a youtuber that focuses on solo-rpgs, tools, and print-and-play games has done a very cool walkthrough of my Wallet Stations micro die drop generator. He's previously also covered a couple other generators I've released....

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I used Lalvin 71b, and a couple days after pitching it occurred to me that this would have been a great opportunity to use something more suited to purpose.

Honestly different yeasts is something I haven't really dug into much yet, although I want to. Currently I just have a big stash of 71b and default to that for every mead.

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When in doubt, age it out!

Alternatively you could consider back sweetening, or oaking, to add some extra flavor that might counterbalance it some.

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Although I do like applying damage to other stats where appropriate, I don't actually think you need to if what you're worried about is balancing them.

STR is the more important attribute if you're consistently getting into combat. All these games share an ethos that combat shouldn't be a hugely frequent thing at the table. In that context, the stats are a lot more "balanced". DEX is by far the most called for Save, in my experience, plus it's how you go first in combat.

WIS/CHA is a little trickier, depending on your individual campaign. Although in Mausritter specifically casting spells can cause WIL damage.

FWIW this is something I grappled with a bit for my own Odd/Cairn hack (slightly exacerbated by some other rules changes), and I eventually came to the conclusion that I didn't need rules changes to fix it. The only thing I really plan to do is make sure the included bestiary includes examples of damage to other attributes.

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I guess the question is whether your goal is to make all three stats equally useful, or to make sure the attribute damage mechanic is used equally on all three stats.

If it's the former then increasing the utility of the other two stats with initiative, magic, dodging, etc. would be a good way to go.

If it's the latter then making sure enemies have a wide variety of attacks works. Psychic/psionics, poison, ensnaring, soul damage, etc. would all help.

Game System Recommendations

I thought it might be nice to set up a thread in which we can recommend game systems to one another. What do you like? Why? Give us a quick blurb about a game you like and why you think others might like it. Maybe call out if you think it would be good for absolute beginners or folks new to the OSR/NSR. Oh and the genre too. If...

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I've written a couple similar posts recently, so I'll consolidate those and add a few more. Apologies for any overlap with existing comments here.

Into the Odd is the epitome of rules light, striped down ,classic DnD. How many rules can you remove and still retain a playable game and the classic adventuring feel? Turns out most of them! This game has spawned a truly absurd amount of hacks, and if you sit down to read and play ITO you'll see why. The physical copy of the remastered edition is a gorgeous little book as well.

Electric Bastionland is the bigger, younger sibling of Into the Odd. Written by the same author it takes the same core ruleset (with a tiny number of tweaks) and places it into a somewhat absurdist, wonderfully inventive, urban setting. This book is fantastic on many levels, including the unbelievable amount of artwork. Each of the more than 100 Failed Careers has its own piece, and the entire thing serves as a de-facto world-building section alongside its role in character creation. Also includes, in my opinion, the single best collection of GMing advice you can get in a physical book.

Cairn is one of the many aforementioned hacks of Into the Odd, but also pulls in the itemized inventory and character generation tables of Knave. If you want a quick to pick up and play system that pairs nicely with all those OSR modules you've been collecting but haven't run, this is for you. It is not mechanically, directly compatible with b/x stat or adventure, but the dead simple framework makes it extremely easy to convert things on the fly (or just use the large, and growing, list of pre-conversions for various modules. It's garnered a huge community and spawned its own set of hacks.

Mausritter is an ITO hack in a similar space as Cairn, but you're playing as tiny mice adventuring in a big and dangerous world. The physical version has super fun cards to use with the slot based inventory, and the digital version is totally free. I've found this to be a great gateway (or long term stay!) for the N/OSR space because it's very easy for people to get into the proper headspace. It makes sense to run away from danger, come up with clever plans to ambush dangerous foes, sneak rather than fight, etc... you're a tiny mouse! Also if any of your players were into Redwall as kids this will be an easy pitch.

Mothership RPG is a sci fi horror game in the vein of Alien. It has a number of fantastic modules to play, both first party and written by the large and very active community it has fostered. Simple core rules, and great if you're looking to run a one shot where you expect your players to either lose their minds or get eaten by a monster by the end of the session.

Wolf-Packs & Winter Snow is a prehistoric roleplaying game. Fascinating ideas, really cool setting, a neat loop of hunting and gathering to sustain your tribe (you get XP when something you've hunted is eaten, not just killed). Magicians don't have spellbooks, they have spell locations. I have sadly not actually run or played this one, but it's such a fun thing to read.

Troika! is an off the wall, somewhat absurdist science fantasy RPG. It has, the core book especially, the best short form, expressive, writing that manages to imply a grand complex setting in a tiny space. Many of the first and third party supplements are also great, I'll specifically recommend Acid Death Fantasy for a tripped out Dune experience or Very Pretty Paleozoic Pals for playing as actual dinosaurs this book is great. The actual ruleset of Troika! is not for me, but I've run plenty of fantastic sessions using it and I love, love, love the writing, art, and settings.

MÖRK BORG is the art-punk, heavy metal, apocalyptic fantasy game. This book gets a lot of attention (and sometimes flak) for it's dense and complex art and layout, for good reason the book is gorgeous to flip through, but it also contains a nicely working core of rules light d20 gameplay. It also contains The Calendar of Nechrubel, where at irregular points in your game (the rough frequency decided by the table at the start) a new misery occurs, plunging the cursed world into further darkness. When the seventh, and final, misery occurs the world, the game, and your lives end. You are instructed to burn the book. Which all means you get to drive your characters like stolen cars, the world's ending anyway!

CY_BORG is the cyberpunk version of the above, and trades a dying fantasy world for a chrome and neon corporate dystopia.

Blades in the Dark has you playing as a gang of scoundrels in a Dishonored-esque whale oil powered city besieged by ghosts beneath a sky filled by a dead sun and a shattered moon. It's got a compelling core loop of going on missions, getting stressed out on those missions, indulging your vices to relieve that stress, getting into trouble because you overindulged, and then needing to go on more jobs to get cash to dig yourself out of that trouble. Going on big heists, and do flashbacks Oceans 11 style to do a dramatic reveal of a hidden aspect of your plan.

Scum and Villainy is Forged in the Dark but you're a crew on a space ship plying your way in a sci fi galactic sector. Variably Star Wars, Firefly, or Cowboy Bebeop depending on your choice of starting ship, and the direction you take the game.

CBR+PNK is another Forged in the Dark game, but compacted into a set of pamphlets where you take the role of cyberpunk runners performing one last job before retirement (or before one last attempt at revenge).

Tunnel Goons is extremely easy to pick up and play, endlessly mod-able and flexible. There are gobs of hacks of this game floating around, and it's easy to see why.

Maze Rats is a classic quick to pick up system. Compact, with a wonderful set of tables that are useful even if you don't end up playing the game.

The Black Hack (or a physical copy) is a nice, rules light take on classic d20 fantasy adventuring, complete with the traditional classes of Warrior, Thief, Cleric, and Wizard.

The Whitehack a super interesting take on old school play. The base classes are extremely flexible and interesting. Roll a d20 under attribute and over AC for combat. This game has possibly the highest density of good ideas to steal, even if I find some of the text a little obtuse (the newer editions are better about this).

Macchiato Monsters is a more flexible, open ended mashup of the above two games. Flexible, "build your own character" classes system, and I hope you like usage dice (or risk dice, whatever you want to call them), because they're everywhere here.


Self Promo Zone

I've got two work in progress games of my own.

Brighter Worlds (online SRD here) is my more light-hearted, whimsical take on the N/OSR space, through the lens of Evlyn Moreau's fantastic artwork. It's a hack that combines Electric Bastionland, Cairn, and Macchiato Monsters but worked into a form with what I'm calling "modular crunch". It's meant for GMs (like myself) that want super simple core rules, but with players that might want something more crunchy, with more levers to pull at the table. Each of the Callings has their own set of modular rules that (if I've done my job correctly) no one else at the table has to understand, avoiding combinatorial complexity of teaching the game, and the GM just needs to give a thumbs up or thumbs down once in a while. Many of the Callings are fairly open ended and require buy in and interpretation on the part of the player and table, so it's not for everyone.

Meteor (online SRD here) is my more straightforward hack of Cairn. It ostensibly exists because I wanted to run Mothership modules with Into the Odd rules, but its started to expand a bit in scope from that point. It takes a slightly more golden age, pulp sci fi tone, and (like Cairn) does not have mechanical compatibility with Mothership but should be very easy to convert on the fly as needed.


I could probably keep going with with more systems, and don't even get me started on the similar question but for modules, but at some point I've got to cut myself off and get actual work done.

Please let me know if I've made any errors or have any broken links.

Edit: Totally did not realize which community I was in while writing this comment, whoops. I can remove the non-OSR/NSR systems if we'd like to keep the discussion a bit more focused.

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I'm no expert, been doing it as a hobby for about five years now, but from my own experience I'll make a few notes:

  • Be prepared to wait for your mead to age out, especially if you go high ABV and pure honey with no additions. If you want fast turnaround do sweet, low ABV meads or make beer instead.
  • Time forgives all sins. If your mead tastes like ass, simply wait long enough and it'll probably taste great. Sometimes that time frame is 2 or 3 years, but it'll (probably) get there eventually. Rack into a new vessel every once in a while as long as you're seeing sediment collect at the bottom.
  • Adding nutrients, especially adding it in steps during primary, makes a huge difference. As in, being able to drink your mead in 4 months rather than a year+. I've found the easiest way to do it is with Fermaid O and the TOSNA Calculator. There are more complex nutrient calculators out there if you want to get deeper into the math.
  • I've also started adding O2 during primary fermentation, although I started it around the same time I started using yeast nutrient so I can't really tell you how much of an impact it makes.
  • I've personally found that doing one gallon batches just isn't worth it, for all that I see it commonly online. Unless you're doing low ABV mead, it's going to take time to age out into something nice. At which point if it's good, you'll be disappointed you didn't do a larger batch. It takes more setup equipment and 5+ gallon glass carboys are pricey, but if you have a local homebrew store getting a basic fermentation bucket (often found in beer homebrew kits) is very worth it. That also goes with getting actual airlocks which are cheap enough that I think it's worth picking up to take less risks with your mead
  • See if you can get your honey locally, and if they'll cut you a deal on buying in bulk. If you can't, webstaurantstore.com has surprisingly reasonable prices for delivering 5 gallon buckets of honey.
  • Making your wine sweeter is a good way to make it taste good faster without having to age as long, but do give dry meads a try! They're very nice!
  • I have filtered mead (using basic plate filters and gravity), and it improved the taste and clarity more than I was expecting. No idea how successful it was at stabilizing it because I didn't backsweeten afterwards. From my research, if you want 100% guaranteed stabilization from filtering you're looking at some pretty expensive equipment and filters. By the same token the science behind chemical stabilization as talked about in the OP is not as cut and dry as I was hoping, so I don't know that there are good guarantees anywhere for this.
  • Edit: Do research first if you want to attempt a bochet. Boiling honey expands to 3x the original volume, and superhot molten sugar is one of the most dangerous things you can have splattering around in your kitchen!
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I honestly haven't really done much stabilizing because I like my meads dry, so I don't bother backsweetening. From my research KSorb/KMeta is your best as a home brewer, but it has some pitfalls.

Filtering is sorta a huge pain in the ass, and like I said doesn't even guarantee stabilization unless you go for the professional grade equipment with the "absolute" filter ratings which is pretty dang expensive. Plus you'll need either pressure, a pump, or gravity and a lot of patience to get it through the smallest sized filters.

My filtering was done with the fairly inexpensive plate filters with "nominal" size ratings, which means it doesn't promise it's actually getting everything.

I think fining plus just waiting a very long time for things to settle out gets you about as good of an outcome as filtering, as far as clarity and taste goes, but I'm still experimenting so I can't say for sure.

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