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Pretty sure MPs across the spectrum have these interactions. Not sure if it’s the stress, the type of person that volunteers for the job, or just that some percent of the population is like this and MPs aren’t special.

We should pick MPs like we pick a Jury. People are randomly selected, some limited ability to challenge a selected person if they would be terrible, people serve their term but never again.

I’m not serious, but the more I wrote it the more I started to convince myself…

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What a weird thing to say about a company that had $2.5B in revenue last year and 17M paying subscribers.

It’s like saying “who users gmail these days?”, where the answer is a shit ton of people just not the early adopters that have moved on.

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After seeing RNZ removed the comment I thought it would be worse that that.

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Yeah, but while this would be news for anyone else, it’s just a normal Thursday for Winston. I was expecting something that was worse than what he would normally say!

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It sounds like they edited it out, possibly after legal threats? I’m not sure how they think they would get in trouble for quoting something that was actually said.

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I’m not sure that’s quite the situation. If you told someone I was a fraud, then they told others I was a fraud, that person wouldn’t be protected.

However, RNZ is not making claims about they guy, they would be saying that Winston made claims about the guy, which is a true statement easily provable.

I’d guess that this might be a line RNZ just aren’t willing to test since court cases are expensive even if you don’t lose.

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but I could see a big loophole if you couldn’t be touched for effectively picking up and amplifying the original claim with some qualifying words around it.

I think there’s a huge difference between an article stating “John Smith a fraudster” and then backing it up by using Winston as a source (which is what I believe your quoted part is for), vs an article that says “In parliament on Wednesday NZ First Leader Winston Peters called John Smith a fraudster”. RNZ aren’t actually claiming the things that Winston said, so in my view there would be no case against them, but now I think about it RNZ probably got a cease and desist and didn’t think it was worth fighting over (which it’s not).

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Now I’m wondering how we can have a media at all!

This bit is interesting (about what defamation is):

where no defence (usually truth, opinion, or qualified privilege) is available

So even if it was said outside of parliamentary privilege, Winston could just say it’s his opinion. But the media could get in trouble for reporting he said it because it’s not their opinion!

I’m sure it’s structured this way for a reason, after all, rules are written in blood, but to an outsider it seems like it would prevent a lot of political news being published!

Now how come they can print that Julie Anne Genter yelled at a florist? They only have the florist’s word. Its that enough to prove truth? We only have Winston’s word about the other guy.

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We wouldn’t have to walk to the store
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We’d take a limousine 'cause it costs more
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We wouldn’t have to eat Kraft Dinner.
(But we would eat Kraft Dinner. Of course we would, we’d just eat more.
And buy really expensive ketchup with it.
That’s right, all the fanciest Dijon Ketchup. Mmmmmm.)

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Hmm maybe I’ll check on it in 5 years. Cos holly hell that price! Priced like a AAA game.

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Isn’t that an argument for the existence of this post? Many don’t know this, well, now they do.

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My guess is that Lemmy trends towards an older audience (average age is probably 30s), and also a lot of Lemmy come from similar walks of life (many are very technical or work in IT and similar).

You don’t find many people arguing over political differences, either. Generally people agree rather than having divisive opinions.

Also definitely playing into it is that many social media platforms are deliberately divisive as it drives usage higher.

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Those discussions are heavily one sided.

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Wait, there are ethnicities other than “white” and “not white”?

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The secret is that paid search engine is a search aggregator. They take results from Google, Bing, Brave, etc and then order them with some tweaks.

And for the record, I tried it and it didn’t help in this case.

Planning to make our own glockenspiel?!😀

I wasn’t, but even if I wanted to all I can find are instructions on making glockenspiel instruments 🙁

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How does it work in the US for pleading the fifth?

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