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Dave

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What's up with that thumbnail image... It doesn't seem to come from any picture in the article, and if you don't look too closely it looks like something on fire.

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I guess that's a win?

This is why you should have a dog. They clean up their own puke.

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Gross...

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Sorry I don't actually understand the steps you took when you made your account.

Can you let me know what you did to make the account using oauth so I can create one like that and see if I can work out how to change the password?

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It's my first time shitposting. I don't know what I'm doing.

Dave,
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Oh man, I tried too hard.

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I've been to plenty of places that look like that, and I've obviously not spent enough time looking for weird mushrooms!

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That's a really cool photo! Did you take it?

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Are you saying someone else took it and you're allowed to share it as long as you give credit - but you didn't say who took it?

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Ooh, ok, the article I read about it was a couple of weeks back. It didn't mention a name. People seem to think they are trying to capitalise on the twitter collapse, but "Threads" sounds more like reddit. It might be something more like facebook groups/pages, where you can follow a brand or celebrity, they make posts, and people can reply under them?

I'm interested to see it, but I don't really use facebook so probably won't use it but will probably look at it.

The big worry is embrace, extend, extinguish, which Facebook and Google did to XMPP. Seems likely Facebook will try the same strategy with the fediverse.

Yeah, I get that. But I'm not sure refusing to federate with them really does much. Meta will make deals with some big instances that have celebrities on them, then people will flood there and lots of people will be on the Meta one. I don't really believe in the "it's not going to make a difference so why do it" idea in general, but I'm not really sure what the intention is to refuse to federate. At a later point when Meta starts trying to push others into a protocol change to suit them, then people can split then. Significant numbers of people will leave, and Mastodon/Fediverse will be a niche little platform hardly anyone users - but that's what it is now.

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Nah, it will be easy. They can build an entire platform just how they like, and do all the monetising they like. Federating with other servers is an add on not a critical part of the platform - unless you're talking about uptake, in which case being able to point at a bunch of users to follow on day 1 will be really helpful.

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Ah thanks, I'm not very familiar with Twitter.

One thing to remember is that people can subscribe to communities and comment on posts (maybe make posts) from Mastodon. So we may start seeing Meta users on Lemmy.

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Thanks for confirming. I know I've seen people commenting from Mastodon but didn't think I'd seen any posts.

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One of the problems I had with r/nz (and some other subs) is that their rules got so strict, I basically gave up posting because chances are anything I posted would be deleted

Is one option here to encourage government-related posts to go into !politics, but not lock them when they end up in the wrong place?

Edit: to make it a bit clearer, and reference what others have mentioned, people are saying #1 and #4 are political, but #2 is not. But surely racism is a political issue, not to mention the international relations component (the boundaries of countries are largely drawn politically). I know people will argue against that, but it seems to me there’s also a pretty good argument that it is political.

I guess 1 and 4 are something the Government has done (or not done), while #2 is not related to our government.

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What about if !politics is used for government-related posts.

Teachers negotiating with government, policy changes for surgeons out of the control of the surgeons themselves, ETS, parliament protest, RNZ tankie issue (not related to our government but fully political in it's own right), these would go in !politics.

All Whites abuse, teacher being a dick, migrant workers being exploited, Mongrel Mob charges - these would go in !newzealand as their relationship to the government is not central to the article.

I also hear concern about the lock-and-crosspost idea. Perhaps when it's not black and white, this is an encouraged split rather than an enforced one?

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Isn't that why you subscribe to communities, so the posts all go in your feed?

In any case, these two communities already exist. The proposal doesn't add new ones.

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I think there's a difference between "I don't want to discuss politics", and "I don't want to discuss politics in my downtime on Lemmy".

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We already have the communities, and both are being used. We are just having a go at adjusting the blurry line that sits between !newzealand!newzealand and politics@lemmy.nz.

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I'm just not sure what would go in !newzealand if the news all got kicked out!

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Yeah, I'm not keen on more communities right now. We just don't have the user base.

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Back in 2016, New Zealand became the first country in the world to ever build an underpass for penguins. The tunnel in Oamaru was created to help little blue penguins safely cross land, without being hassled by tourists wanting photos, or the bright lights of vehicles.

It's a bit rough we needed to build a bridge to let the penguins avoid the tourists...

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Just do what Southern Cross do! "Sorry, your browser is not supported. We only support Chrome, and you're using Firefox".

Except your list of supported browsers may be one shorter. That's ok though, right?

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