EndlessApollo

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EndlessApollo,

If you think feminism bad bc they fight against MRAs Idk what to tell you other than stop hating women. MRA’s are garbage and have never given a fuck about men’s issues. They’re the male equivalent of terfs, using a progressive social movement as a guise for their bigotry. As someone who used to think 3rd wave feminism was cringe and bad, you really need to reexamine your views and question why you’re still going to bat for MRAs of all people

EndlessApollo,

Where did I say anything close to that??? Ofc men have shit tons of problems, you’d have to be super ignorant or bigoted to deny that. MRA’s don’t give a shit about those problems. They just pay lip service to them as an excuse to decry feminists and often women in general bc they hate women and unknowingly contribute to the kinds of unhealthy masculinity that cause men a lot of the problems they face.

Most feminists aren’t the screeching misandrist TERFs that are super loud and way too plentiful in a lot of spaces, though I’ll admit I don’t really call myself one anymore. Terfs kinda ruined the term for me by hijacking it as a guise for their transphobia. But most feminists want toxic masculinity to end, and for people to not have to conform to gender norms. Most feminists realize that men face a lot of issues, and those issues are societal and not inherent to having a dick

EndlessApollo,

“They won’t even let me spew blatantly bigoted talking points on their forums, how toxic of them!”

Wtf is with all the blatant transphobia? (lemmy.world)

Edit I’m just gonna delete this soon. I posted it and made most of my comments while angry and looking for blood. yea a lot of cringe stuff got said on that post but I don’t think my post is contributing anything to the sub other than anger, and possibly driving people away. Sorry to the people I snapped at, I hope yall have...

EndlessApollo,

Pick me !!! Pick me!!! Hey I’m one of the good transes pick me!!!

If you didn’t see the shit in that comments you weren’t looking hard enough. Op openly admitting their abusive tendencies and lots of people saying that’s OK, that trying to make a trans partner feel dysphoric is just a"preference ". Fuck off with your internalized transphobia, assuming you even are trans and not just some 14 yo 4chan edgelord who wants to own the transes or whatever

EndlessApollo,

Person who made the reported comment said that in response to being asked if he’d date a trans guy, in a thread asking what straight guys are attracted to. Could have just been badly worded, but considering op’s reaction to being called out, the other transphobes in the thread, and op agreeing with them, I’m gonna say no

Here’s a pic of one of the worse fuckers in those comments, I would’ve linked more in the post but idk how to link more than one. Op agreed with this take and said 6 out of 7 of his trans women friends were just unreasonably mad about their problems

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/74201832-168e-40a1-a9be-58f0175a41ab.jpeg

EndlessApollo,

“you don’t understand it’s just a joke bro” FUCK OFFFFFFFFFF

EndlessApollo,

And I hope you deal with your internalized transphobia. We need to stick together, not gang up on eachother to look good for The Cis™. Stop defending blatantly transphobic bullshit (or pretending it doesn’t even exist in your case)

EndlessApollo,

I’m on mobile and busy rn so I can’t do that, I’ll just copy and paste my comment here and come back later

Good question, why don’t you try answering it rather than continuing to shit on the people you call yourself an ally to? If the answer is “I wouldn’t date a non-op trans man” then just fucking say that instead of insinuating that you would date them and treat them like shit

EndlessApollo,

There’s nothing wrong with just having those kinds of preferences, or with saying you have them in the right context, which this is. Op didn’t do that though. He would totally date a trans guy, he just says he’d hate it and would try to make his bf feel dysphoric. Having a problem with that doesn’t mean I’m a Karen or have a chip on my shoulder or any of that shit, I just like when people show basic fucking respect towards trans people and this “ally” doesn’t seem to have any. He cares more about having trans friends and saying he’s an ally than about listening to trans people and actually being one. He’s prob a chaser tbh

EndlessApollo,

I literally couldn’t interact with them through the channel they suggested, so I reposted my comment so they could reply to it here. You would’ve gotten that and mentioned it here if your goal weren’t to paint every troon that disagrees with you as a screeching Karen

EndlessApollo,

Okay fair enough, that doesn’t sound nearly as bad as I thought at first and I’m sorry I interpreted it so uncharitably. If you’re just into tits and no dick with no preference for who the owner’s gender is there’s nothing wrong with that, and good on you for realizing that’s not compatible with most transmasc guys

Ngl I’m not big on the stuff you said about your female trans friends having a chip on their shoulder (at least in a vacuum, obv everyone overreacts to stuff sometimes), it comes off as dismissive about just how shitty it can be being transfemme, especially when said in response to someone equating the trans communities to karens. Though again maybe they do just overreact to stuff, but I’d strongly recommend taking their complaints about stuff more seriously on general principal, after all they know more about trans issues than you do

Again sorry for overreacting the way I did. it’s hard not to see stuff like that as intentionally transphobic, esp with all the cishet friends I have who’ve constantly insisted they’re straight while dating transmasc people. You don’t seem like an awful person and I shouldn’t have leaped to that conclusion. I might also be overreacting with the last paragraph (and again I don’t have any context other than what you said), just make sure you’re listening to your trans friends and being a good ally and you’re good :3

EndlessApollo,

Vegans try not to compare agriculture to genocide challenge +don’t compare poc to animals bonus round (IMPOSSIBLE)

EndlessApollo, (edited )

Cherrypicking examples doesn’t prove your point. I can find trans terfs people who think protecting trans kids makes you a groomer, that doesn’t make it any less awful of a take. Stop being an obnoxious racist vegan on the internet pls

EndlessApollo,

Very true, but vegans are still gonna shit on you for cutting out less that 100% of animal products from your life. Idk how they can be so desperate to be superior to others that they would actively discourage improving your lifestyle just because it could be even better

EndlessApollo,

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  • EndlessApollo,

    “I’m a great ally, but you transes are just overreacting to this transphobic asshole!” fuck off

    EndlessApollo,

    And yet you’d try it anyway, and be a transphobic asshole about it. Fuck off, you’re a shit ally and you’re not welcome here

    EndlessApollo,

    “I hate to say it, but of the 7 trans women I’ve known, 6 have been like this. Everyone is the enemy, giant chip on the shoulder.” You in response to some saying trans people are the karens of lgbtq+

    You’re a shit excuse for an ally and need to fuck off. Imagine being told your take is shit and transphobic and putting this much energy into denying it rather than learning from it

    EndlessApollo,

    Anyone who would go out of their way to make their partner feel dysphoric needs to fuck off and stop claiming to be an ally

    EndlessApollo,

    Good question, why don’t you try answering it rather than continuing to shit on the people you call yourself an ally to? If the answer is “I wouldn’t date a non-op trans man” then just fucking say that instead of insinuating that you would date them and treat them like shit

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