I am religious, in the sense that I am a member of a religion. The difference is that my religion is not a theist one. I’m an atheist and therefore, as I explained elsewhere, I adhere to the root meaning of the word ‘religion’, to be egotistical enough to quote myself (in turn quoting others):
The word ‘religions’ Latin root word is religiō which means an individual virtue of worship in mundane contexts; never as doctrine, practice, or actual source of knowledge. The ancient Roman’s used it not in the context of a relationship towards gods, but as a range of general emotions which arose from heightened attention
So, my religion is similar to Bhuddism or Jainism in that gods are not a requirement. I don’t believe in or practice the same things as them I’m just saying the ‘no gods required’ model is similar.
All of which is to say I have no real issue with religion as an idea. If someone wants to believe in a supernatural being that’s entirely up to them. My issue with it starts when it starts to seep in to laws and regulations and government and state practices and when adherents to these religions feel it’s fine to start evangelising their opinions and morals on the rest of us in ways that inevitably end up oppressing people who want nothing to do with them, don’t believe in them and don’t follow them. I don’t see why any theist feels that it’s acceptable to practice their religion outside of their own homes and places of worship.
I also find their insistence that morality can only come from a belief in not just a god, but their particular god to be breathtakingly arrogant and I do believe that theist religion in this aspect, as well as some others, is holding back human development.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought the etymology of the word religion was a complex and debated one.
Could well be, I’m just going by the particular books I’ve read which I admit could be wrong. Here’s wikipedia’s take:
The term religion comes from both Old French and Anglo-Norman (1200s AD) and means respect for sense of right, moral obligation, sanctity, what is sacred, reverence for the gods.[15][16] It is ultimately derived from the Latin word religiō. According to Roman philosopher Cicero, religiō comes from relegere: re (meaning “again”) + lego (meaning “read”), where lego is in the sense of “go over”, “choose”, or “consider carefully”. Contrarily, some modern scholars such as Tom Harpur and Joseph Campbell have argued that religiō is derived from religare: re (meaning “again”) + ligare (“bind” or “connect”), which was made prominent by St. Augustine following the interpretation given by Lactantius in Divinae institutiones, IV, 28.[17][18] The medieval usage alternates with order in designating bonded communities like those of monastic orders: “we hear of the ‘religion’ of the Golden Fleece, of a knight ‘of the religion of Avys’”.[19]
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Definitely give the ‘Children of…’ series another go.
I personally struggle with audiobooks. I’m not one of those who claim audiobooks aren’t ‘real’ books, it’s just that for me, when I read a book via print (e or standard) there’s just me and the author. When it’s an audiobook, no matter how good the narrator might be, there’s now this 3rd person in the process and they might have their own take on how a character speaks or inflects or put emphasis on things I don’t. I just find it really jarring.
I think now is a great time to remind everyone, like sync’s developer, Lemmy’s developers need to be paid too! The amount of time all the devs put into making lemmy exist, in my opinion, should be worth some of your money. If you can afford it, donating to the people who develop lemmy and/or the people keeping your home...
If you want to use Sync, be my guest, I’m glad you’ve found an app you like. I genuinely don’t care what app anyone uses. Also, if you want to share your love of an app with others, feel free to do that too.
But - and try to hear this - hijacking a thread which is about making sure Lemmy gets developed (without which your app won’t work) and supporting instances (without which your app won’t work) to say how much you love your app is beyond crass.
You’re absolutely correct. Anyone can enjoy any app they like and either pay for it or not.
But coming into a thread about ways to ensure Lemmy gets the support it needs to develop and instances get the support they need to keep going to tell everyone how much you love your app is infantile.
I have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. I’m not being evasive or dismissive, I genuinely have absolutely no clue what you’re talking about.
It’s point about the fact that comments on a post are all part of the topic of that post and using the word ‘branch’ to try and infer that this is somehow a whole new subject under discussion is daft. Why do you think so many communities have ‘stay on topic’ as one of their rules?
I genuinely don’t give a shit about what app anybody uses. I’m not anti or pro any particular app. Feel free to go through my comment history and you’ll see mention of Sync in this and only this thread. Why?
Because a) I don’t give a shit what app people use and b) this isn’t a thread about Sync. The fact that the word ‘Sync’ appears in the title and body is used in an illustrative way to highlight the fact that Lemmy as a piece of software was developed by two guys who were given a grant. It needs funding via donations. Instance owners also need funding via donations. If these two things don’t happen Lemmy goes away. That’s the point of this thread, irregardless of what language or words were used. I’m not OP so I can’t say why they chose to use Sync as an example.
When Sync users jump in to tell everyone how much they love Sync, that detracts from the point of the thread. It dillutes it and all of a sudden everyone’s talking about Sync, not what the thread subject is about. OP and a couple others tried to go through this thread telling Sync posters that that wasn’t the point of thread. Then Sync posters got annoyed and we started getting the ‘I just want to use Sync’, ‘why do you care?’ comments. So we responded to those too.
Mods are only going to step in if a thread gets nasty, which it hasn’t. It’s just very very frustrating to see a thread hijacked by people who want to talk about how great an app is in a thread designed to draw attention to the fact that Lemmy as a piece of software and instance owners - both of which any app absolutely requires in order to function - need support.
If you or anyone else wants to talk about Sync in a positive or negative way then I’m sure there are communities you can do that in. There’s absolutely no need to enshittify a thread that has absolutely no bearing on Sync (or any other app) as a piece of software, especially when that thread discusses a subject as absolutely vital to the continued existence, growth and maturation of Lemmy as this.
“With all this talk about Sync pricing…I think now is a great time to remind everyone, like sync’s developer, Lemmy’s developers need to be paid too! The amount of time all the devs put into making lemmy exist, in my opinion, should be worth some of your money. If you can afford it, donating to the people who develop lemmy and/or the people keeping your home instance up will accelerate the incredible growth of lemmy!”
How on Earth do you come to the conclusion that that is in any way calling Sync users out?
I have to assume you’re referring to things I’ve said as it would be pretty stupid to expect me to be answerable for things other people have said.
So, you let me know where I’ve made any comments in the entire thread that are based on Sync being a for-profit app and my lectures about the desirability of FOSS purism and I’ll be happy to talk about them.
Let me make a list of things that would be “stupid” to take from this.
That you are answerable for what others have said.
Then why did you ask me to justify OP’s post?
That you are among those that were prodding Sync users.
Then why did you try and make me answerable for what other people were saying?
Not whatever the fuck direction that was that you just tried to take it in.
It’s pretty simple. You said:
“because of the sync mention by the OP, there is a preponderance of lecturing coming from the FOSS purist community. It is infantile to expect no response to that”
And clearly expected me to have some sort of ownership of, or participation in, that lecturing. I then pointed out to you that I didn’t believe I had either but if you could find an example of me doing so I’d be happy to talk about it.
Feel free to tell me why my paraphrasing was inaccurate
Because it’s not what I said. I said:
“You’re absolutely correct. Anyone can enjoy any app they like and either pay for it or not…But coming into a thread about ways to ensure Lemmy gets the support it needs to develop and instances get the support they need to keep going to tell everyone how much you love your app is infantile.”
I’m not sure saying someone(s) coming into a thread which is nothing to do with Sync as a piece of software and proceeding to hijack it to be about Sync is infantile behaviour is directly equivalent to ‘standing up for yourself is infantile’. They weren’t standing up for themselves, they’d made an error in understanding what the thread was about and when informed what it was about got annoyed and asked why they ‘couldn’t just use what we want’ or ‘why do you care?’ when as far as I can tell nobody (certainly not me) told them they couldn’t use whatever app they wanted to, its simply not what this thread was about.
You really just aren’t interested in boxing with anything but your own shadow, huh?
By quoting exactly what you said and exactly what I said I’m shadow boxing? OK.
You’ve got all these assertions and things I’ve tasked you with doing, yet I never did and clearly indicated so in my previous post.
So you didn’t ask me to justify OP’s post? And you didn’t expect a response from me when you talked about FOSS purists lecturing Sync users? If not, why on Earth did you even mention it?
If you can just make it look like I said that stuff. Right?
The trouble is, you did say that stuff. I’ve quoted you (and myself) directly. Now, if I’ve misunderstood either your words or the intent of your words, feel free to explain to me exactly where I’ve gone wrong and if I am wrong, I’ll gladly and happily apologise.
I’ve also directly answered your request about the usage of the word ‘infantile’ but I see you’ve chosen to not see that. I can understand that.
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I think now is a great time to remind everyone, like sync’s developer, Lemmy’s developers need to be paid too! The amount of time all the devs put into making lemmy exist, in my opinion, should be worth some of your money. If you can afford it, donating to the people who develop lemmy and/or the people keeping your home...