machinin

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machinin,

There are better options. Musk is just the one that doesn’t care about safety.

machinin,

That is what makes this even more egregious. Musk doesn’t care about this guy in the slightest, except for the publicity that might help Musk raise more investor money. So Musk takes advantage of this desperation without any concern for long-term consequences. We know people left the company because of their ethical concerns. Those that remain probably just don’t care or aren’t on a position to do anything about the lack of ethics.

machinin, (edited )

I guess it is an old argument. How willing are we, as a society, to protect people from being taken advantage of by cons. Musk had been extremely resilient for a con man. Probably because he mainly goes after relatively poor people.

Musk’s companies aren’t the only ones making breakthroughs in their respective fields. The only difference between Musk companies and others is that Musk just didn’t care about safety, so his companies cut corners to make people think they are ahead. Other companies who are more responsible aren’t willing to cut those corners for ethical reasons.

machinin,

I would say this is just AIPAC astroturfing.

machinin,

Yeah, but he could also stop a genocide, or at least slow it down significantly.

It isn’t just votes were talking about. It’s the genocide of a people, and Biden is supplying the guns and money for it.

machinin,

Yeah, might as well put a KKK bumper sticker on the thing.

machinin,

They are also dumping Tesla.

machinin, (edited )

I have a feeling this might be like the Hertz deal. A quick deal by Musk to save the stock price, but that is going to wreck Baidu in the long term.

Edit - never mind, I actually read the article. So Tesla is licensing map data from Baidu? I wonder what caused that.

The Modi snub seems significant. It will be interesting to see how that works out. I wonder if that was an intentional power move by China.

machinin,

And that is why Tesla shouldn’t be promoting videos that abuse the system. If they do, make Tesla liable when their customers abuse the system.

machinin,

So why do you think Tesla’s crash at a higher rate? I think it’s a combination of instant acceleration, poor sensor-suite (like the lack of radar), and Tesla giving idiots free-reign to abuse the system as they please.

machinin,

It’s not that Teslas are killing their owners. Teslas are killing first responders to road accidents, kids getting off buses and motorcyclists. We’re all exposed to the problems caused by Musk cutting out testing to save some money.

machinin,

If only we could implement similar testing protocols to the aviation version to validate it’s safety!

machinin,

Do you think current and prospective Tesla owners could escape the online marketing system that pumps this info into their online life? One of the reasons I started countering all the Musk bullshit was because I couldn’t escape their online marketing presence. It is everywhere. I might as well have fun fighting it. I’m sure that if you’ve clicked any Tesla marketing links, you’re inundated with their BS.

machinin,

The one where Tesla is responsible if there is an accident (but this user blocks people critical of Tesla, so probably won’t see this message).

machinin, (edited )

Good luck in your purchase!

I hope you don’t buy from the company that had swastikas in the bathrooms and a place called the plantation where the black employees were forced to work.

For those downvoting, give this a read:

seattletimes.com/…/welcome-to-the-slave-house-was…

It’s one of those articles that you read and think, it can’t get worse than this, and it just keeps going and going.

machinin,

They use the term “rate,” which would account for absolute numbers. So just because Tesla sells more EVs wouldn’t account for it.

machinin,

The same stats run similar for other EV but nobody cares.

Where are you getting that number? The report just said Tesla had the highest accident rate of all brands.

machinin,

Okay, so Tesla had the highest rate, but switching power train types seems problematic. It didn’t really say if other EVs are close to Tesla’s accident rates, or am I missing something?

machinin,

In any case, I think we can dispel the myth that Tesla is one of the safest cars. They have the worst accident rates among all brands and their driving assist features either can’t keep idiots from making bad decisions or, worse, even amplify the dangerous effects that idiots create while driving.

machinin,

They give 2 statistics, accidents and incidents. Accidents are crashes, incidents are crashes plus tickets.

Tesla has most accidents per driver. Ram has the most incidents - the report you mention. Tesla has the second most incidents.

So, Teslas still top the number is accidents. Agree, we would need a study to figure out if Tesla driving assist suite is either incompetent at driver safety or malignant to driver safety. Perhaps this lawsuit will shed some light on it.

machinin,

It’s so good many people trust it to much.

That’s the malignant part I mentioned. They trust it too much and end up running into a first responder, motorcycle or kid getting off a school bus. The aviation industry and many other industries have extensive knowledge how to avoid this very problem. Most other car companies implement systems to avoid it. Tesla just doesn’t really care that much.

My thoughts were also about phantom breaking, but I don’t know if it is still an issue.

By the way, I’m not downvoting you here.

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machinin,

They were right about eugenics. That was a doozy that the left got wrong. But yeah, conservatives don’t really do well with change for the better for people who have it bad.

machinin,

I’m surprised I got downvoted. I didn’t think this bit of history was that unknown.

This is about British and Scandinavian eugenics. theguardian.com/…/eugenics-founding-fathers-briti…

Galton, Darwin’s brother, was the leading proponent. nicholls.edu/…/eugenics-in-the-united-states-the-…

As a leftist myself, I’m horrified by it, but we need to know our history.

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