@webology I also wonder what we can do -- primarily, unified storytelling.
I've been thinking about the enshitification of the web: Google search results, AI stealing content, Twitter collapse. Python has a vibrant slice of the web and there's now a back-to-web movement. How can we help Python and help the web?
Lots of folks (like you) doing storytelling. Could we stitch it all together? Amplify the deserving? Raise technical standards (robots.txt against crawlers)? Spread the joy?
@webology Ha! I knew you would say that. I was also thinking that on the treadmill this morning. In the very early days, Python had a community-hosting site called Starship. Free space for the good folks.
Count me in.
I think we need humans as much as software, so I'm still interested in curation and storytellers.
Sorry if you didn’t manage to get into the room for @lais_bsc ‘s talk at #PyConIT2024 because it is packed, you should catch up with the video later! It is great!
It's notable that almost every other Django book out there doesn't touch deployment at all. Makes me wonder if I should stop trying to cover it and just move it to a more advanced thing that is separate. Especially now that there isn't a great free option, it's a non-starter for many people apparently based on feedback I've gotten.
@ricmac Thanks for the synopsis of my talk and thanks for the point you made at the end. It's how I feel too. Let's put the web back in the web. Vive la résistance indeed.
@tonybaloney A question about subinterpreters. Let's say you import your app in a subinterpreter. Then detect the app source changed, throw away the interpreter, make a new one, and import.
Meaning, a half-step to hot reloading. Would that work? Or is some import state still in parent interpreter?
@carlton We'd have to think of it as tepid reloading. Maybe warm. 😇 No time travel state, for example.
I can't help but think that the arrival of nogil, subinterpreters, and maybe even JIT stuff, is going to launch a new web framework that's designed around all that.
@tonybaloney@carlton Wow! I’m...sorry....in an excited kind of way. Can't wait to talk to you about what you learned and whether the idea is worth trying.