ricecake

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Do you consider The Fifth Element to be cyberpunk? (lemmy.zip)

The futuristic city with flying cars at the beginning of the movie definitely has all the cyberpunk visuals, and technically Zorg is the head of an evil corporation. But the real villain of the movie is incoming force of evil/darkness. And the plot is resolved through the power of love. Even the President of Earth is actively...

ricecake,

It’s not a cyberpunk story, but it’s a cyberpunk world.

ricecake,

Whelp, it’s about that time.
[Gently slap thighs]

The ship will actually depart in about 45 minutes.

ricecake,

There’s enough birds in a hardware store that I very much doubt they have motion detectors.

ricecake,

Yeah. Like, birds love hardware stores. You can’t keep them out since they can fly in through the customer doors or through the loading docks they use for the big stuff.

Birds getting into things like hardware stores, large grocery stores, or shopping malls is a thing.
It’s particularly difficult with a grocery store since they tend to have piles of vegetables and fruit sitting on easy to see tables. I once saw a sparrow sitting on the birdseed shelf looking absolutely smug.

audubon.org/…/what-happens-when-birds-invade-stor…

ricecake,

That’s so weird to me, I see them all the time. They just walk through the door when they get opened and it’s not like the doors are too big.

They just really want to be in there, and so you see lucky little sparrows pretty often.

ricecake,

I think it goes to something else. The (relatively uncommon) compulsion is caused by an issue with the part of your brain that inhabits those thoughts that you don’t normally even notice.
So it’s like the brain occasionally hits the gas pedal when aiming for the break.

It’s part of what makes it so distressing for people who have it, since it tends towards the things they don’t want to say.

ricecake,

Both I believe. There are things that come up in your brain that get tossed before “you” are even aware of it.
Like, when you see a person all the different words you know of that could be associated with them get “activated” as your brain comprehends the details.
You see a man wearing jeans and you know he’s wearing jeans, but you don’t think to yourself “blue pants”. It’s not relevant.

ricecake,

No, it’s totally the employers fault. Invariably they made the choice to go overseas rather than accept lower profits.

Those things the government does to make it more expensive to operate in a country?
Those are things like “a livable wage”, “health care”, “workplace safety”, and “environmental protection”.

If you can’t stay in business while doing those things, you don’t deserve to be a business.

When a business cites government overhead as a reason for going overseas, always look at what they’re saying they don’t want to pay for.

ricecake,

And what exactly does that have to do with businesses that can’t operate well deserving to stay in business?

If capitalism breeds innovation, then innovate and find a way to pay your workers well in a safe and clean workplace.

ricecake,

Again, that “government overhead” is the “Migrant and Seasonal Agricultural Worker Protection Act” and the rules of the H-2A visa program which ensures that you do crazy things like “pay the workers fairly”, “don’t discriminate”, and “don’t retaliate against workers whom you abused”.

It sucks for them that they can’t turn a profit without criminally exploiting migrant farm workers, but I don’t really give a damn.

Instead of pushing for the ability to mistreat workers, push for import bans on agricultural products from nations that lack reasonable parity in worker protection.
I like chocolate less than I like an absence of slavery.

ricecake,

Are you referring to how you have to pay foreign workers the average of what domestic workers make? Also known as “you can’t use foreign labor to depress regional wages”? Otherwise you’re gonna have to provide a citation.

If you’re complaining that you can’t afford to hire foreign workers because they’re more expensive than domestic, you can just … Hire domestic?
If you’re still complaining, it makes it harder to argue that you aren’t aiming to hire foreign farm workers to undercut minimum wage laws.

ricecake,

Well, I’d certainly hope it’s not depressing wages, since the point of the law was to keep it from doing that in the first place. Sounds like the law is working to keep the cost of foreign and domestic workers in line, so no problem there.

It really just sounds like you’re unhappy that farmers can’t import foreign laborers at poverty prices, and instead have to pay them fairly, or god forbid pay an attractive wage to domestic workers.

You’re really not making a good case for “paying migrant workers fairly, and giving them shelter after they travel from another country to work for you is unjust government regulation”.
This is seriously not sounding like brazen government overreach, just basic worker protections.

ricecake,

He once smiled at the cashier when getting groceries, but it was only a polite smile.

Pretty sure that’s the worst he’s ever done.

ricecake,

At least long enough that you’re not giving money directly to the person who did the bad thing.
Definitely once it’s in the public domain, or for all the people impacted to be dead.

There’s also a timeframe over which we can recognize that there has been sufficient drift in morality that we can overlook some things.
By the standards of his era, it was not okay for Roman Polanski to drug and rape a 13 year old.
There are certainly artists that had wives that, by modern standards, were disgustingly young but contemporary standards found unremarkable. Easier to fault the standards than a person who was perfectly normal for the time.

ricecake,

One thing I’ve noticed is that it can be difficult if you’ve gotten used to everything you drink being very strongly flavored, like juice or pop.

Even with the same water, it started out tasting “blank” until my tongue got used to not everything being a saccharine flavor bomb.

Little flavor drops can help with the transition there.

ricecake,

technologyreview.com/…/solar-value-deflation-cali…

I’m not sure I’d call their conclusion shit. It’s harder to get people to build solar if they have to pay people to take the power or trigger the emergency shutdowns.

They end with a discussion on how to fix it, not some claim we shouldn’t do solar because it can’t turn a profit. Batteries, shifting demanding use to be during peek solar production hours, or sharing power better between grids and the like.

ricecake,

It’s weird that that’s possible as such an easy solution, and all those electrical engineers never thought to use it, instead putting in load banks and all sorts of contrivances to heat metal in an emergency, or find complex ways to hide excess production in normal load and balance production by managing the generators.
Even weirder that the people who run solar grids opted to pay people to take excess power rather than just dumping it on the ground, although a lot of them have also taken to heating metal instead, or water for smaller home setups.

Yes, you can technically connect your generator directly to the ground. This isn’t something people want to do because it can damage equipment.
It’s why that heating metal trick is used as part of the emergency shutdown rather than as part of load regulation, and they don’t want to use it because they have to make sure the right bit of metal melted.

None of this has anything to do with people needing to react to excess current in an electrical grid, and not just let it be a situation that happens. It requires intervention was the point of the phrase.

ricecake,

That’s one of the options they mention as a solution.

Basically store it, use it, ship it, subsidize it or pay someone to waste it are the options.

Right now they pay someone to waste it, which is the option that makes adoption the most difficult, so it’s a problem.

ricecake,

As some other comments have explained in better terms, you can hook it to ground directly, technically. But you can’t if you like, want things to be good and not broken all to hell.

ricecake,

technologyreview.com/…/solar-value-deflation-cali…

It’s MIT, they’re not exactly a clickbait source.

The reply is what makes the excerpt seem inflammatory. It’s an article about the economics of solar power, so the excerpt is a fair representation of both the article and the real issue it’s discussing.

It would be sensationalist if they said “critical problem paying for solar power comes from negative prices, threatening future of solar adoption”

Framing it as though it were a condemnation of solar turns a statement of fact into something different than what it is.

ricecake,

They can, and they do. They’re typically considered safety devices since they can be damaged by having excess load dumped on them, and they either are dumb, in which case they don’t act like an actual load the generator is expecting and can maybe cause damage to the generator, or they’re smart and can mimic the type of load the grid would actually give, but now they’re expensive and need maintenance and testing in excess of what the dumb one needs.

It’s something you would need for off grid solar as well, with batteries that can only take so much charge, but at the power grid level it’s a much bigger task because you’re in the realm of “metal explodes” power, and exploding metal is bad.

ricecake,

The panels still generate power even if they’re disconnected as long as they’re in the sun.
In a home setup they’ll probably just get warm, but if you’re making a lot of current you’d want it to not do that.

I think a lot of home setups will switch to a water heater, since that’s easy and also a potentially useful way to spend extra power.

I did some googling to try to get an idea of what happens if you just quickly disconnect a solar cell, and things seemed to indicate that it’s the inverter that switches the DC to AC that likes it the least.

Regardless of the specific reason, I’m quite confident you need something in the mix to eat the excess power from an underutilized solar plant, because otherwise the electrical engineers who built them probably would have taken the seemingly obvious and easy way. :)

ricecake,

Because we’re not doing those things at the moment?

Having a solution available doesn’t make it not a problem.

Something having a problem doesn’t mean it’s not worth doing, and not all problems are bad things, they’re just things that need figuring out.

People too often think that identifying an issue with something means that it’s being argued that we should abandon it or that it’s unfixable.

Solar is not a perfect technology, because there are no perfect technologies. It has solvable problems are or will need to be addressed as we keep using it. That’s fine and normal.

ricecake,

Who’s complaining? Read the article I linked, it’s what the quote came from. Informing people about an issue, discussing it’s consequences and listing some solutions is hardly complaining.
I’m not sure why you put problem in quotes, it’s an issue that has to be resolved which is the definition of a problem. It’s not silly to me to talk about an issue.
You think we should do carbon sequestration with the power. That’s a great notion. Should we tell the solar plants they need to do that, should the public build them, or should we incentivize companies to do it somehow?

I just can’t see how people are this upset about an article explaining how “more than we can handle” means “people might stop making more” and “we need to figure out how to handle it”.

I’m not sure what you’re talking about with the fish?

ricecake,

Yeah, when I looked them up they recommended a dump load to mitigate fire risk, since however hot they get normally is the baseline for when all the energy they produce gets turned into heat on the panel as well.

Gotta send extra power somewhere, and better to send it someplace built for it than into the expensive thing that’s not.

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