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moira, (edited ) to MountainBiking
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OKAY. Stopping point on the Northshore Bike Map, connecting the latest Seattle and brand new Eastside map.

I've added everything I know and I've stumbled upon a bunch of things I didn't before. This has been educational.

I've also labelled a bunch of stuff, added replacement labels for certain attractions that had their labels obscured, and made a couple of corrections.

I'm not including the sidewalk/path hybrid along Ballinger because while sometimes it sure does feel like a path most of the time it's just "sidewalk."

DO YOU KNOW ROUTES I DON'T?

Tell me about them! But only if they're public. I've not included a couple of trails here because they're private.

MAP REV 8 / RC2, 1 May 23:30

sip,
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@moira Here are some additions to the Shoreline part of the map. There are also some small segments of bike lane scattered throughout the city, but I didn't include them because they don't contribute to the larger network.

sip,
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@moira There will also be bike lanes added on Meridian Ave N from N 155th St to N 175th St this year, and extended to N 200th St next year.

On June 3 at 7pm, Shoreline City Council will be meeting at city hall to discuss adding sidewalks and bike lanes on N 175th St between the Interurban Trail and Meridian Ave N. There is some local opposition because it requires either removing trees or car lanes, and some people are unwilling to compromise on either. Support is very welcome!

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@moira The portion between NE 183rd Ct and NE 185th St is fully open. They removed the barricades and "sidewalk closed" sign at the NE 183rd Ct crosswalk and the barricade at NE 185th St about a month ago. The portion between NE 180th St and NE 183rd Ct is still blocked by a bunch of potted trees just north of NE 180th St.

sip,
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@moira Yup! Those were added near the end of summer 2023. The buffered bike lanes on N 160th St run from Dayton Ave N to Linden Ave N, and then there are sharrows running diagonally though the parking lot ending at the base of the Interurban bridge over Aurora.

The other connection between the south end of Dayton Ave N and the Interurban Trail is just a signed route (no sharrows, only signs).

sip,
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@moira Are you asking about the north connection or the south connection?

sip,
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@moira Starting on Dayton Ave N going south, you cross Westminster Way N using the crosswalk, take N 149th St east, turn right on Evanston Ave N, turn left on N 148th St, and follow that until it intersects with the Interurban Trail.

It's not very well marked, but there are wayfinding signs on Dayton Ave N just north of Westminster Way N and on Evanston Ave N just south of N 149th St indicating which way to go.

(Sorry for double post, I accidentally made a normal post instead of a reply.)

sip, to cycling
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In your opinion, what does high quality bike infrastructure on a moderate incline look like? One where you might end up going 20 mph (32 km/h) just coasting. Is there any way to make it work well if it's running on or parallel to a roadway?

In Seattle, they often put a bike lane next to parking on the uphill side and sharrows on the downhill side. I'm curious if there's a better way.

sip,
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@enobacon I like the advisory bike lane and one-way ideas for low traffic roads. Part of the problem in Seattle is that the bridges and more gentle hills are on arterial roads, so people biking tend to be funneled onto them. I'd prefer people biking be provided with a parallel low-traffic route of similar grade, with walking/biking bridges and safe crossings of arterials. (Bike access on arterials where businesses are located still needs to be provided, of course.)

sip,
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@enobacon I've found that bike lanes (even protected ones) on downhills intensify all the usual problems with bike lanes, often to the point where it feels safer to take the general purpose lane. Problems like right hooks and people pulling over the bike lane when staging a turn from a cross street. That's why I don't think that removing parking and adding a bike lane is necessarily the right solution for downhills. It does work fine if there are no driveways/cross streets, though.

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