moira, (edited )

OKAY. Stopping point on the Northshore Bike Map, connecting the latest Seattle and brand new Eastside map.

I've added everything I know and I've stumbled upon a bunch of things I didn't before. This has been educational.

I've also labelled a bunch of stuff, added replacement labels for certain attractions that had their labels obscured, and made a couple of corrections.

I'm not including the sidewalk/path hybrid along Ballinger because while sometimes it sure does feel like a path most of the time it's just "sidewalk."

DO YOU KNOW ROUTES I DON'T?

Tell me about them! But only if they're public. I've not included a couple of trails here because they're private.

MAP REV 8 / RC2, 1 May 23:30

moira,

There is now RELEASE 1!

Keep up with updated releases here:

https://github.com/solarbirdy/NorthshoreBikeMap

moira,

This came up in discussion: the bike lockers at Lake Forest Park Town Centre are still there, but are NOT operational. They're sealed shut but for whatever reason haven't been removed.

sip,
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@moira Here are some additions to the Shoreline part of the map. There are also some small segments of bike lane scattered throughout the city, but I didn't include them because they don't contribute to the larger network.

moira,

@sip Dude, this is excellent - thanks! I'll get those added onto my copy now!

sip,
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@moira There will also be bike lanes added on Meridian Ave N from N 155th St to N 175th St this year, and extended to N 200th St next year.

On June 3 at 7pm, Shoreline City Council will be meeting at city hall to discuss adding sidewalks and bike lanes on N 175th St between the Interurban Trail and Meridian Ave N. There is some local opposition because it requires either removing trees or car lanes, and some people are unwilling to compromise on either. Support is very welcome!

moira,

@sip I'm not putting anything on the map until it exists in real life - there are a bunch of projects about to happen in Kenmore, too, that'll add bike lanes to every major road going north from Burke Gilman.

But until they exist, they're not on the map. ^_^

moira,

@sip As for support yeah I'd use all these as tags:

seattle
shoreline
biking
BikeTooter
BikeCommuting

And some "please boost" in there too. That should get you some attention.

moira,

@sip ALSO also also HEY @seabikeblog you know about these Shoreline plans, right? (See a couple of replies above from Sip)

moira,

@sip Entering your updates!

Important question: is the path line east of I-5 between 180th and 185th actually there and open now?

sip,
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@moira The portion between NE 183rd Ct and NE 185th St is fully open. They removed the barricades and "sidewalk closed" sign at the NE 183rd Ct crosswalk and the barricade at NE 185th St about a month ago. The portion between NE 180th St and NE 183rd Ct is still blocked by a bunch of potted trees just north of NE 180th St.

moira,

@sip Okay cool. I'll put in what's there, and let me know when the other parts are open! (Even if it's opening soon, I don't want to send someone somewhere not open yet.)

The improvements on 160th east of Dayton, you've seen them yourself? (They aren't on Google Maps yet but that doesn't mean much. Some of this "2024" overhead data clearly is not.)

moira,

@sip (Also dang that's some seriously overdue improvement, I used to ride that route to SCC when I was going there.)

sip,
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@moira Yup! Those were added near the end of summer 2023. The buffered bike lanes on N 160th St run from Dayton Ave N to Linden Ave N, and then there are sharrows running diagonally though the parking lot ending at the base of the Interurban bridge over Aurora.

The other connection between the south end of Dayton Ave N and the Interurban Trail is just a signed route (no sharrows, only signs).

moira,

@sip How does that work? Not Westminster?

sip,
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@moira Are you asking about the north connection or the south connection?

moira,

@sip The south end that's just a signed route. The north end, you laid out. (And it's how I used to go basically even in the Before Times)

moira,

@sip Oh wait I'm being dumb, I'm automatically thinking about going north, not south xD

sip,
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@moira Starting on Dayton Ave N going south, you cross Westminster Way N using the crosswalk, take N 149th St east, turn right on Evanston Ave N, turn left on N 148th St, and follow that until it intersects with the Interurban Trail.

It's not very well marked, but there are wayfinding signs on Dayton Ave N just north of Westminster Way N and on Evanston Ave N just south of N 149th St indicating which way to go.

(Sorry for double post, I accidentally made a normal post instead of a reply.)

moira,

@sip Map updated! The alt text has the revision notes.

fbaum,
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@moira this is great, I'm taking a look! Is there a way to see it larger somewhere?

moira,

@fbaum If you click on it to enlarge it, then click on that to "open image in new tab," that should get you a 4371 pixel-width version.

The actual max width - the one I'm working in - is 7180, the pixel resolution of the GIS files I got from King County. I'd post that one but it won't fit on Mastodon. ^_^

(Semi-relatedly, I am most certainly using the wrong tools for this job. I mean all the way down, wrong tool. However, I have these tools, so here I am. xD )

moira,

@fbaum (I also just learned that Mastodon is making the picture even smaller than my upload, which is 5000px width. SURPRISE)

When I call a stop on this round of this nonsense, which probably won't be too long, I'll find a way to get the full resolution version online somewhere, probably flickr? I still have a flickr.

fbaum,
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@moira ah, thanks I downloaded it!

ST has a list of secure lockers at their locations - looks like you have the bikelink ones... https://www.soundtransit.org/ride-with-us/know-before-you-go/bringing-your-bike/parking-storing-your-bike

I like MapComplete as a tool for showing some OSM stuff, but I wish their Bicycle Parkings could be sorted by type... https://mapcomplete.org/bicycle_parkings.html

moira,

@fbaum Yeah, I got those. None of the others listed by Sound Transit are in Northwest King County. It does show the Northgate stations but I've already tagged that one.

MapComplete's interface is very confusing, everything I try to get information on seems to want me to edit it, and it's not clear from their interface what they're saying the entries actually are. Very odd.

moira,

Still to do: Corrections, no doubt. Also, so far, I'm not including slopes, and I want to fix that. I also haven't marked any secure bike parking yet.

Hey, @seabikeblog - do you know the Eastside definition of "secure bike parking"? I want to be consistent with them.

seabikeblog,
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@moira Hmm. I don’t know if there’s an official definition, but I would say it means a limited-access room (“bike cage”) or bike lockers. An open-air bike rack wouldn’t count.

moira,

@seabikeblog mmm. Thanks. I think we’re pretty lacking in that department. I literally don’t think I’ve ever used one and the only example that comes to mind is one of the bus stops. Presumably some of the other stops have them too but certainly not all. That’ll be hard to fill in.

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