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strypey, to fediverse in Should we decide to have a main fediverse community or should we keep posting everything twice?
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@theKalash
> Lemmy neads a feature where people can “merge” communities from different instances so it appears like a single one

I'm confused by this. I'll admit I haven't used Lemmy much yet, but I thought communities do exist across all servers? So if I join "c/fediverse" on any one server, and you join "c/fediverse" on any other server, we're joining the same community. Is that not how it works?

@Blaze

strypey, to fediverse in There is a drop in monthly active Lemmy users (from 65k to 57k)
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@itadakimasu
Plus, the Lemmy servers are part of a much larger network; the fediverse. Not just other forum apps like KBin either. Right now I'm replying to this from Mastodon.

I have an alt on a .nz Lemmy server, but haven't got into the habit of using it yet. So at least some of the perceived shrinkage is due to that, rather than any failure of the network. Also due to spam and troll accounts being purged.

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@Blaze @Kushan @patatahooligan

strypey, to fediverse in There is a drop in monthly active Lemmy users (from 65k to 57k)
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@itadakimasu
> there’s only 60k of us? And that’s a good thing?

A centralised platform is a numbers game. The money for upgrading servers for growth has to come from one company, and if the platform shrinks it gets harder to get a return on that spending.

It just doesn't matter as much in a federated network. The cost of growth is spread across many servers. Some of which will end up shutting down, for a range of reasons. But others have room for growth.

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@Blaze @Kushan @patatahooligan

strypey, to fediverse in What are the best fediverse alternative to the big sites on the web?
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@MyopicTopic
> very few people have an entire extended friend group looking to figure out what a decentralized federated Facebook would entail

Indeed. It's a real swiss army knife of a platform, hard to even spec out a replacement. I had a go at that here a few years ago:

https://web.archive.org/web/20201023210758/https://www.coactivate.org/projects/disintermedia/public-webspace

I'm sure I wrote out a more developed summary of this as a blog post, but I can't find it right now.

@DaisyLee @deadsuperhero

strypey, to fediverse in Is there a good fedi or p2p alternative to twitch?
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@theory
> Is there a good fedi or p2p alternative to twitch?

was designed specifically for this:

https://owncast.online/

also has livestreaming capabilities, as well as being able to host recordings of livestreams for future playback after they're over:

https://joinpeertube.org/

There's also , which is entering beta and looking for testers:

https://calckey.social/notes/9f468lwk06

strypey, to fediverse in What are the best fediverse alternative to the big sites on the web?
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@DaisyLee
> What are the best fediverse alternative to the big sites on the web?

Which ones are the best is a matter of taste, but this page gives you an idea which of the corporate DataFarms the various fedi apps can be a replacement for:

https://joinfediverse.wiki/What_are_Fediverse_projects%3F/Fancy

strypey, to fediverse in What are the best fediverse alternative to the big sites on the web?
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@lackthought
> I was just looking at Matrix, are there community servers like on discord people can join? or is it all private rooms?

There are loads of public rooms on matrix, eg:
https://matrix.to/#/#fediverse-city:matrix.org

FYI what Discord calls a "server" is actually just a group of chat channels and their pool of members. The equivalent of a Discord "server" on matrix is a "Space". This blog post is a couple of years old out-of-date, but it gives you the general idea:

https://matrix.org/blog/2021/05/17/the-matrix-space-beta/

@hiajen

strypey, to fediverse in do you think the fediverse could replace popular social media
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@Bicyclejohn
> my peers are too tiktok obsessed

What is it that attracts them to TikTok? The features and user experience, or the pool of people and content they can find there? Or something else?

strypey, to fediverse in do you think the fediverse could replace popular social media
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@StoicLime
> what are you using as an alternative?

I never really used Titter. My account was just a sock puppet that echoed my posts from my Mastodon account. I'm posting this from Mastodon right now, but I also have a Friendica account, and I'm keen to check out CalcKey. All of these, like Lemmy, are part of the fediverse and interoperate with each other.

(sorry if that's obvious to you but it's not to everyone so I'm spelling it out)

@Bicyclejohn @Alkalyon @realcaseyrollins @albinanigans

strypey, to fediverse in do you think the fediverse could replace popular social media
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@knighthawk0811
> can we get young people coming here though

That's a very good question to ask a young person. OTTOMH though...

... anything they have to use at school, they're unlikely to use by choice at home or elsewhere. What would have got me to join the fediverse if it existed when I was a young person? Hearing that someone I respected had joined like Upper Hutt Posse, or Michael Franti, or RATM, or even David Bowie. Pop poets are the vanguard party of the young.

@Bicyclejohn

strypey, to fediverse in do you think the fediverse could replace popular social media
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@knighthawk0811
> since there isn't any strong way to collect data or advertise it will always be an underdog compared to big business

... unless and until democratic governments ban corporations from spying on the people using their platforms, as they bloody well ought to, if they have any respect for the human rights of the citizens. Or pass laws that force the Walled Gardens to federate with similar platforms, like the Digital Markets Act.

@Bicyclejohn

strypey, to fediverse in do you think the fediverse could replace popular social media
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@realcaseyrollins
> Reddit was already toxic, but I guess now people will begin to recognize its toxicity

... just like Titter.

@Alkalyon @Bicyclejohn

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