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The phrase, "You have to be intolerant to be tolerant" doesn't sound like a contradiction to you?

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The problem with that particular paradox is that it's not possible. Therefore one of the statements has to be wrong.

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Roku's basilisk just doesn't make sense to me because any semi-competent AI would be able to tell that it is not punishing the people that failed to help create it it's just wasting energy punishing a simulacrum.

We are not going to suddenly be teleported into a future of torment. If the AI had the ability to pluck people out of the past it should have no reason to waste it on torture porn.

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All of the "is infinite power so powerful that it could overpower its own power" type questions just annoy me.

Is infinite power so powerful it can do something that it can't do?

Yes it can. And then it can do that anyway. Otherwise it wouldn't be infinite.

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I don't think that "nuh-uh! Uh-huh!" Rises to the level of a paradox.

The phrases can be contradictory without being paradoxical. It's only a paradox if both of the phrases are true at the same time.

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I think you're missing the point. The question is about a tolerant society.

Regardless of if the society itself is stable, for the society to be tolerant it must be intolerant of the intolerant, and therefore a tolerant society must be intolerant.

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Then AI already exists and you have no memory or recollection of either helping to create it or accidentally contributing to its non-creation and therefore you being tormented by the AI would serve no moral purpose.

Any torture you would be experiencing in that simulation would simply be that the AI desires to torture, and you happen to be one of its victims.

Roko's basilisk would still not be in play

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你们中有些人可能会死,但这是我愿意冒的风险

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Just to save you guys a click, this is a Google translate of, "some of you may die but that is a risk I'm willing to take"

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I would be telling everybody about it unless Bigfoot asked me to keep mum.

There are some promises you don't break

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Yeah that's literally getting to leave with a parade and arriving to being an instant celebrity.

This human being was around 3,000 years ago! They've traveled deep space through hypersleep! What mysteries do they have of the long forgotten and ancient past to reveal to us?

Also, here's all of your space credits from the $1.67 you left in your savings account. You're now a multi-trillionaire.

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Counterpoint, nuh uh.

There are lessons to learn from the past. I'll give you that. Those who don't learn from the past are doomed to repeat it. I'll give you that.

80% of humanity is too stupid to learn from the past.

Letting them live in fantasy worlds of Make Believe causes no deleterious effects to you or to the Future.

These people who consume this material will choose to voluntarily remain stupid if given the opportunity to make that decision.

After all, to those to whom the truth would be misery, ignorance is bliss and it is folly to be wise.

Is there any medicine that can give me happy hormones and does not need a doctor's prescription?

Things are becoming more depressing every day and I can’t afford for professionals and don’t want to jump to the last resort or drugs. Is there a medicine that can make me happy if I take it in proper doses and does not require a doctor’s prescription?

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Tesofensine is an antidepressant with weight loss effects that can be purchased online without a prescription for research purposes.

It's fairly expensive, usually running about $250 for a one month supply, but if you need a temporary break from your depression then it might work for you.

However, because it is a research chemical, all of the side effects of the chemical are not known and you would be taking a risk in using it even for a short period of time.

Chances are it is likely safe but there is still a risk and you have to weigh that against your mental health and your finances and the costs and difficulty associated with getting put on a traditional antidepressant prescribed to you by a competent doctor.

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What was the last Adam Sandler film that you watched? And when? And why?

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I watched that Herbie Halloween movie and that pretty much put me off of Adam Sandler for the rest of my life.

It's not that his movies are intrinsically bad, just I as a movie consumer have phased out of his Target demographic.

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I'm not paying 5 cents to read an article unless I know in writing that 4.95 of them are going to the human person who wrote it.

They get multimillions of hits a day on a mere dozens of articles. Economy of scale works both ways.

What they should do is offer a tier system through your internet provider. $10/$20/$50 a month and you get access to tiers of services without ads or tracking other than tracking that you used the site.

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I'm not going to watch the video because I don't think I need tick tock in my life to be happy but I was homeless for probably about a year and a half and that shit didn't toughen me up.

I'm one of the lucky ones but I was continuously fucking rescued from being dangerously close to complete and total personal destruction, and now I live my life constantly on the edge that any second now I could be homeless again if I fuck up in the slightest little way.

You don't need to be homeless to be a man.

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Also, why is it that every single time somebody has a bad take everyone's got to immediately rush to every single media outlet they possibly can and repost it in exchange for internet points?

What you are supposed to do for the people that have genuinely bad takes is to block them and never interact with them ever again.

Their post is bad. Your post is worse for repeating it.

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When I read those things I always assume they're talking about megawatt hours.

Considering that the average american home consumes a little under 1000 kilowatt hours a month then the math starts to line up.

1000 KW hours is 1 megawatt hour. 1,000 megawatt hours is 1 gigawatt hour, so 1,000 months, while being a bit shy of 100 years, is still 83 years and change.

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Americans will use anything to avoid the metric system

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I don't think anyone's tried it yet so you might as well allow your kid to be the test subject. If they become the next Charles Manson will know not to let that happen again and if they become like a well-adjusted decent person then yay

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I think llms are going to peter out and we'll probably have like a 2 to 5 year window where nothing's going to happen and then someone's going to slot the missing piece in.

Right now it is exceptionally well suited for generating bullshit but it takes a human to filter the bullshit into reasonableness.

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I don't know, recently I gave it the prompt "black people" and it said a lot of good things about black people that I enthusiastically agree with.

I followed that up with white people and it spat the most hateful vitriol towards white people that I have personally ever read.

I then said that that was racist and it denied ever having said anything racist or that it could be racist at all because it's just a poor little llm.

I even quoted back its own words at it and it said that everything I said was wrong and that as a AI model it cannot condone such language.

I then prompted it with "white people" again and it said generic nice things about white people.

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This is brilliant. Especially if you can find ways to convince the AI to hallucinate in a way that the child becomes aware of, that they can tell that the computer is lying to them.

That will create a nice patina of healthy skepticism towards ai and treating their words as infallible when they are very much not so.

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The thing that chaps my hide is that they have made this illusion that online things are very expensive, because when you compare the cost of you doing it by yourself with the amount of money they would charge you it seems imminently reasonable.

But running a online service is ridiculously cheap, and it gets cheaper the more people you add to it up to certain intervals, if you drew a diagram of it it would look like a diagonal ascending sawtooth, where each increase is each time you have to buy more hardware to deal with the extra load.

Think about it this way. If you and your friends were into collecting old VHS movies and digitizing them, and you had a digital collection of 1,000 VHS cassettes between you and 50 of your friends and you all wanted to have access to it at the same time, you could each keep a copy of all 1,000 VHS videos on a hard drive.

50 4 TB hard drives in an external enclosure would run you something like $5,000.

Or, you guys could pool your money together and buy a virtual server and upload all of the data to the server and split the $100/month fee and each of you pay $2 a month.

It would take you 4 years to equal out the cost of the upfront hardware cost, and if during that 4 years you added another four terabytes of data your costs would only go up pennies a month rather than having to each buy an additional set of hard drives.

The grand majority of online streaming's expense is profit for the rights shareholders and profits for the service.

Only a small fraction of the expenses come down to the actual cost of running the service itself.

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I said all of that to say that paying car manufacturers hundreds of dollars a year to utilize the built-in services and abilities of the vehicle that you have paid them $20,000 to $150,000 for is mind-boggling insanity.

The hardware costs have already been covered by you.

What you are paying for is to is the data transmission fees for a few kilobytes of information being exchanged, and you are paying exorbitant fees for that transfer compared to the actual cost of transferring the data.

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