I do think if they open with malicious compliance, it’s better than if they open with moderators that wanna replace and wanna do their best to keep the sub going
They said you can put quotes to it like
Pear “Join Lemmy” OR “Powered by kbin”
The “Join Lemmy” the commenter said, is on every lemmy server’s page, so it can help capture results from servers not following lemmy.*
Pear site:lemmy.* OR site:kbin.*
would miss things from many servers not following this naming convention
I think as the top comment here said, there are tools people make to help search the fediverse. There will be a good way to search it if it did become very popular
Yeah I do agree with that. Like if I got some search results from google, and it came from lemmy.one, the link takes me to lemmy.one site, but I probably don’t have an account on specifically lemmy.one. Then I can’t make any comments, save/upvote. I’d have to navigate there again on my account’s server to be able to do anything
so complicated :o that's true, it's kind of another con of making an account on and staying on a small instance then. If the instance makes its own communities, and the instance plans to stay small ish to be a lot of decentralized servers, then the content might not be well searchable for the small instance. idkkkk, it feels like there's pros of the fediverse, but then sometimes it's like a double edged sword or something.
Thanks for your answer. It's making sense to me. I do think this kind of thing might encourage more users to congregate on the large instances, but who knows, maybe it wouldn't be that bad if we continue making a new large instance if one fills up. Like how we have lemmy.ml, and now filling lemmy.world, and lemmy.world has a good experience.
I also am not entirely sure too how exactly the posts get populated, because I'm visiting some communities I added on that smaller server only a day ago, but it does show some posts from 7- 9 days ago (they don't have any new comments or anything), so yeah maybe I also don't completely understand how it works still. I added this one to the server I'm on - lemmy.studio - and I think I only added it today, but it's showing some from a few days ago: https://lemmy.studio/c/kbinMeta@kbin.social/data_type/Post/sort/Active/page/1
I don't know, I'm thinking they are probably about the same. Even though I'm trying both lemmy and kbin, I'm on a large kbin server and on a small lemmy server. I think that can make a bigger difference for the ignorant (me) than lemmy vs kbin. It can get kind of complicated to do some basic tasks, and I think it's good if these aggregators can make it easier to do.
For Kbin, I am liking the way they organize my feed, but I think you can customize your filter/sort on lemmy to do the same. Plus they have the android mobile app Jerboa, so I'm sure the experience for the feed can be good (don't have to keep resetting the filter the way I'm doing on browser [since I dont have an android phone])
Definitely feel free to make these accounts though :) It's been cool, like a big experiment to make these two accounts. I have one on lemmy.studio and kbin.social
that's fair, since the instance owners are hosting for us. The only thing is, I feel like the users might not know about this. I didn't really think about it until a little later that oh yeah, there is no [search for something "fediverse"] google search, and we're encouraged to join new instances and for the most part think of them as just servers to build the fediverse. I know I shouldn't try to box the fediverse ideas like reddit, but I am finding it frustrating that the decentralization is having these cons.
Won't that defeat the purpose of going on smaller instances to reduce the load on the servers though? I think I'd also have to make an account on that other instance if I wanted to make any comments/replies there.
Yeah I'm honestly seeing this as a big turn off for users to join smaller instances, which is a goal many fediverse people want.
It really sucks that I made an account on a smaller instance for lemmy, and there were some technical difficulties/learning curve on my end to add a community (which I won't run into if I stay on a large instance), but then even after I did add the community, there are no posts. I made a lemmy account since it allows you to save posts, which kbin atm can't do. However, when I'm able to add the community on the lemmy account, there's none of the previous posts, so I can't save it.
I think the instances themselves don't feel much different (for example the UI for lemmy.world and lemmy.studio is like exactly the same), but I feel like maybe there needs to be some quality of life tools to help a new instance succeed with more ease.
Like it's hard to know that the instance exists, so it'd be nice if the UI makes signing up for one as easy as possible,
One big con at the moment too is it's actually kind of hard for me to find communities in a small instance. The large instances somehow people already added like all of them, so I can search for pretty much all of them. I think to encourage joining new instances, ideally should give the creator an easy way to like just add every single community across different aggregators. Maybe even a bot that just automatically does this so it doesn't have to be updated, or at least give the creator of that instance that option if they so choose
Give easy way to migrate account. For example today I just learned about a website with a list of the kbin servers, and thought maybe I should move from kbin.social to put less strain on it. However, I made my kbin.social account with my gmail, and I prefer to be lazy and just log in through gmail. I can't make a new account on say kbin.chat with that same gmail account actually, so I'd have to use another email account, and I didn't want to do that. Also in my 2 days on kbin, I made a community, and if I just abandon my kbin.social account, I don't know who would be the "mod" of that community now. There's already some data I'd like to not have to start over on
oh, maybe it's cuz I'm on a less populated server for lemmy. I'm on lemmy.studio and it's been good, but it's actually really hard to know about any non-lemmy communities. I believe you can only search up "Redditmigration" on lemmy.world since someone already did the initial work to subscribe to it. On lemmy.studio, most of even the lemmy communities aren't on there yet, but at least the lemmy browser will let you see what's out there, so you can know to do the work to be the first to subscribe to it on that less populated server. However, there would be no way to know about the kbin communities if all I'm looking at is that lemmy browser
I'm guessing kbin would have the same issue( but im on a popular server there, kbin.social, so I can't confirm. Everything here, like you has been searchable for me probably cuz it's big so people have already subscribed)
I think there needs to be an easier way to see communities/magazines across aggregators because I see the lemmy browse sites for communities won't show any kbin magazines, which I think will only hurt the point of decentralizing but being able to access all the content in the fediverse.
I'm not sure if kbin actually suffers the same way, because I'm on kbin.social which I'm guessing just already has all the current lemmy communities added. But if there's a new lemmy community, and no one added it to kbin.social (how would they find out?) then no one will find out if this lemmy community blows up and becomes really popular right?
okay the only thing is, I'm not sure if it's a good idea to keep making instance names that don't start with kbin.___ because then if kbin/lemmy really do take off, it would be so hard to google search for them. You can't do the site:kbin.* search if those instances with different names make magazines/communities and you can't find them with that google filter