Sucuk

Is it (still) worth trying to switch my family and friends from WhatsApp to Signal? (Read all of it, please.)

This may sound a bit dumb, but eh....

Sucuk, 9 months ago

Thinking of that but that would probably make them (my family and/or friends) mad lol.

I am posting some statuses and changing my profile pic saying "Contact me on Signal".

Sucuk, 9 months ago

I said this in Reddit, I will say it here too.

"Well,

(Note: Most of my family and friends don't really care about privacy.)

So, it's kiiiiinda about my privacy, since I do NOT feel comfortable using a Meta product.

Because most of my family have FB, FB Messenger, IG and/or (well, of course) WA."

+I want to increase their privacy and security as well.

Sucuk, 9 months ago

How exactly? I'm not saying they can't, I just want to know how?

The point you are mentioning also (kinda?) applies to all of the internet, then you can never ever even be "partly-private".

And chances of convincing them to not use those platforms is next to impossible, there is nothing I can really do other than switching from WA to Signal. I'm confident I can convince my close family, and that's kinda enough for me.

Sucuk, 9 months ago

I want to use Signal mostly because of privacy and it's features. They... don't really want to change, but if I don't use WhatsApp, they kinda have to.

Sucuk, 9 months ago

The main concern with whatsapp is they know my contacts, who i contacted with, when I contacted with them, (maybe) where I contact them from, for how long I contact them etc. etc.

I do NOT like that.

With signal, the only thing they know is your phone number (because well, it requires one) when you created an account and when you were last online. These are also concerning points but compared to whatsapp, it's much better.

Sucuk, 9 months ago

because of infinity for reddit. when it's dead, reddit becomes dead to me and i will delete my account. I might also delete my content from there.

Sucuk, 9 months ago

Well, it's more privacy-focused, feels like home, and it's not hard to get used to and it's not a data-hungry company like Meta or Google. Also Other platforms i tested didn't really fit right with me.

Sucuk, 9 months ago (edited 9 months ago)

Hmm, good points.
Most of these have some kind of (strong or weak) counter-arguments.
I have mixed thoughts about the first point, they kinda have some good points though.2 and 4 got resolved, very critical issues nonetheless, shouldn't have happened. The 3rd point seems kinda OK, I'm sure they would like the idea of making that open-source, but that would probably make it bypassable, correct me if im wrong. I didn't know about the fifth! The reason they gave also seems defenseless.

Concerning situations for all of the points.

Not trying to hate or back up Signal here, just my opinions.

Sucuk, 9 months ago

Hocam öncelikle eyvallah. :D Ama ben başladığım işi bitiremeden içime huzur girmez. Annem ile Signal'den yazışıyoruz bile. :D

[Matrix]/XMPP güzel seçenekler, kendi sunucum olursa zaten gizlilik benim elimde olur ama o konularda hiç bilgim yok. Olsaydı bile sunucu için param yok, kendi bilgisayarım kötü ve ailemin öyle bir öyle bir ortama alışabileceğini sanmıyorum.

Verdiğin linke benzer bir şeyler okumuştum, bazı iyi noktaları var ama çoğunun karşı-argümanları (tam doğru kelimeyi bulamadım) var çoğunun. Tabii bazıları hala önemini koruyor ve kritik noktalar.

Hayırlı geceler diliyorum.

Sucuk, 9 months ago

Tried it about a month ago, it felt barebones so I deleted it but it's quickly updating, might check it again!

Sucuk, 9 months ago

I do not have the knowledge, time or money to set up my own servers for those sadly. And it would probably take time for my family to adjust to those.

Sucuk, 9 months ago

Hmm, yeah true. More people can take a look at the code, find vulnarabilities and fix it. Then it should be open-source too, since it would also be hard to bypass even if that happened. So there's not really an argument to not make it open-source.

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