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Israeli official says government cannot confirm babies were beheaded in Hamas attack | CNN (www.cnn.com)

The Israeli government has not confirmed the specific claim that Hamas attackers beheaded babies during the attack on Saturday, contradicting an earlier statement by the Prime Minister’s office. An Israeli official stated that while there have been cases of Hamas militants committing brutal acts, they cannot confirm the...

AlmightySnoo, (edited )
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“Antizionism” is a made-up term to mask one’s antisemitism. An antisemite cannot today say that they want Jewish people to cease to exist, they’d love to be able to say it but they just can’t, so he/she will instead adopt another banner that’s being made more and more acceptable by mainstream media: “antizionism”. It’s technically less “extreme” (in the sense that it doesn’t target an entire ethnicity anymore, at least on paper), but it’s still evil and it’s basically saying that either 1- Israel should be destroyed or 2- Israel should cease to exist by making all Israelis leave their country. It’s the tankies’ favorite term too.

It’s one of many disgusting play with words that mainstream media is feeding us with. Just like we are made to say “pro-life” instead of simply “antiabortionist”, because words have power. When those people are saying that they’re “pro-life” they start feeling good about themselves, and they don’t feel like they are taking something away from someone, unlike “antiabortionist”, while both actually mean the same. That’s exactly the same with “antizionism” and antisemitism.

BraveSirZaphod,
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Their explicit aim is the complete destruction of Israel. It is incredibly easy to believe. To quote the Hamas charter:

Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.

[Peace] initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement... Those conferences are no more than a means to appoint the infidels as arbitrators in the lands of Islam... There is no solution for the Palestinian problem except by Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are but a waste of time, an exercise in futility.

The Day of Judgment will not come about until Muslims fight Jews and kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the rocks and trees will cry out: 'O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him."

Hamas is explicitly opposed to peace, and it's sole aim is to murder or expel every Jew from the land. Any supporting these attacks needs to asked if this the aim they really want to support.

glockenspiel,

Exactly. I’m a far-leftist, and I’m as disgusted with leftist hot takes the same way I was when poor old defenseless Russia invaded Ukraine and started murdering their children.

I’ve blocked and purged so many leftist creators in 24 hours it is unreal. Spreading legit anti-Semitic (really anti-Jew) conspiracy theories (“curious how nobody stopped it” and the like). Reframing these terrorists as freedom fighters like you said. Blaming this on the U.S. somehow (because we made Iran do this via Hamas as proxy; but Iran has clean hands don’t worry they are just another oppressed peoples).

Far too many leftists, like their right wing nut counterparts, are contrarians at heart. This is what happens when political ideology becomes a personality trait; it becomes akin to a religion.

So thoroughly disgusted by it all. Bad enough what’s happening over there in Israel and Palestine right now; bad enough with all the innocent lives being lost; but then to justify industrial grade rape and murder of men, women, and children? And cheer Palestinians on as they record, edit, and upload their barbarity?

I’d like to believe that a lot of it are disinformation ops, but the sad reality is probably that a fair number of people have nothing left to live for because their lives are shit so the world burning down for others isn’t such a big deal for them.

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  • djquadratic,
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    Far too many leftists, like their right wing nut counterparts, are contrarians at heart. This is what happens when political ideology becomes a personality trait; it becomes akin to a religion.

    hit the nail on the head with that. I've seen so many leftists horseshoe into this perverted self righteousness. and it is even more frustrating when they act like they are directly involved in a conflict they really have nothing to do with.

    ClarkDoom,

    Hamas is evil and anyone on here supporting them are complicit in supporting evil.

    flossdaily,

    My friend, these anti-Israel zealots won’t be happy unless Israel just rolls over and lets Hamas kill Jews without consequence.

    The anti-Israel crowd thinkd Israel is the devil of it fights back.

    They think Israel is the devil, if, as you mentioned, they call buildings ahead of time, and give people time to evacuate, before Israel bombs terrorist. Headquarters, because I guess they think Palestinian buildings are more important than Israeli lives.

    They think Israel is the devil if they build a security fence to keep our suicide bombers.

    Mostly they think Israel is the devil because Israel offered the most general peace deal in history, but refuse to give Palestinian’s the Right of Return, which would have allowed Palestinians to claim voting rights, and literally vote to turn Israel into an anti-Jewish theocracy.

    Now… Most of the people HERE haven’t the foggiest clue about any of that. And if you talked them through the situation and the options, they’d understand that Israel does not now, nor have they ever had a partner on the Palestinian side with which to make peace. They want Israel gone, full stop. And you can’t make peace with people who believe in literally no situations in which you still exist at the end.

    Israel, on the other hand has showed throughout it’s history that it will do extraordinary things for peace. They gave up land for peace with Egypt. They have offered extraordinary concessions.

    But the people who really needed to read this downvoted me in the first paragraph and are already typing a rant.

    flossdaily,

    That’s exactly what they are doing.

    They hold Israel to an invented standard that they apply to no other nation.

    There was a brief, shining moment after 9/11 when the entire world was united against terrorism. But the critics of Israel were so determined to frame Israel as the bad guys that they invented a meaningless phrase “state terrorism” which just meant “anything that Israel does”. And they pretended that that was the moral equal to the actual terrorism of the Palestinians, deliberately targeting children and other innocents.

    Israel builds a fence to keep out suicide bombers. They scream “apartheid!”

    Israel bulldozes a vacated house that was used as a terrorist bomb-making factory. They scream “genocide!”

    The problem with Israel’s critics is that since they damn Israel for any and every action, they have made their voices utterly useless.

    America needs to talk about the right’s ‘Red Caesar’ plan for U.S. dictatorship (www.inquirer.com)

    The incredible scenes this week on Capitol Hill — leaving the U.S. House without a speaker and promising an autumn of sheer chaos in Congress — marked a rapid escalation of the downward spiral of American democracy. And most of the folks who get paid big bucks to understand politics could not make any sense of it....

    Cube (1997 480p) (www.youtube.com)

    Cube is a 1997 Canadian independent science fiction horror film directed and co-written by Vincenzo Natali. A product of the Canadian Film Centre’s First Feature Project, Nicole de Boer, Nicky Guadagni, David Hewlett, Andrew Miller, Julian Richings, Wayne Robson, and Maurice Dean Wint star as individuals trapped in a bizarre...

    dragonflyteaparty,

    Ah yes, because it’s a “shitty vegan” idea to not want creatures to be stabbed through the mouth with a fishing hook and thrown back into the water for funsies. Seriously, if we caught and injured any other creature and threw it back just for the fun of it, people would be outraged.

    thefluffiest,

    I never knew organized animal torture was a gendered pastime

    Drivebyhaiku,

    A lot of it comes down to the perception of privilege. A lot of people believe that trans women basically have all of the privileges inherent to being an able-bodied cis man so their assumption of participation in a female centric space is to weild their privilege to unfair advantage…

    However women’s sport leagues fall into different reasons for existing. For some it is because of a perceived difference of physiology… In which case the issue is what original puberty the athlete went through. Technically if an athlete transitions early and never goes through male puberty at all you basically remove that issue… But then people start being incensed that someone transitioned at 16 with the a-okay of an entire team of doctors, social workers, therapists and the blessings of the legal guardians. It is easier for them to just assume that there is no solution that allows fair inclusion on this front.

    Or

    The second type of league exists to combat a systematic rejection of women through treating them as novelties or inferiors. Nobody generally wants to do something for fulfillment, bragging rights or fun if it requires them to wade through being treated like a second class citizen. The exclusion of trans women from these communities assume that trans women do not experience the same forces of misogyny that drive cis women from sport and assumes trans women can just re-don all of their male privileges whenever they feel like… Something that doesn’t really happen. From personal experience within the community trans women are often REALLY vulnerable to misogyny. They just freeze up and have no idea how to deal with it. They didn’t get a training period where elder women assumed they were inexperienced and helped them learn how to deal or strategies how to stay safe or safe places to retreat to where they could find solidarity. A lot of them just stumble into danger with a lot of cis women just leaving them out to dry thinking they are innately strong enough to deal. The exclusion of trans women from these spaces takes a rather callous vein of every one removing all forms of solidarity from all sides of sport. The trans woman looking for a place to do something they are extremely passionate and talented in basically is told that she can either put up with being thrown into the misogyny heavy lions den and treated by all sides as novelty, a reason others can point to to discredit the rest of the needs of the trans community or just as a man (something that for a trans person causes a cascade of negative mental health effects) or she can disappear from the sport entirely…ignoring that similar situations are what caused a segregated woman’s league to be established in the first place.

    The first assumes male privilege of body fat and muscle distribution. The second assumes an intrinsic male social privilege remains relevant. A lot of people want to assert that a loss of male privilege isn’t possible. It’s just someone with it trying to angle for an unfair advantage rather than someone who just needs the solidarity of other people who lack privilege in a similar way they do.

    Emperor,
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    I’d never heard of MAP, so just looked it up and went 'so a paedo then". Let’s call a nonce a nonce.

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  • clausetrophobic,

    Normalisation in culture has effects on how people behave in the real world. Look at Japan’s sexualization of women and minors, and how they have huge problems with sexual assault. It’s not about whether or not real children are getting hurt, it’s about whether it’s morally right or wrong. And as a society, we’ve decided that CP is very wrong as a moral concept.

    Ataraxia,

    Excuse me what? I’m pansexual and fucking what? I’m nothing like a kiddy diddler. I don’t revel in the agony inflicted onto a child. These people get off on violence and destroying people. These victims are never the same again. That’s why parents catching someone doing this to a child will kill the perpetrator and nobody would fault them. Pedos are criminally insane if anything.

    Discoslugs,
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    I’m genuinely wondering if this would actually reduce the harm caused to real children. If so, I think it should be legal.

    So tired of seeing this point made. Allowing animated or AI generated CSAM to exists openly and legally will not reduce violence against childern. It will increase it. It will normalized it.

    You seem to think people who are willing and capable of commiting sexual violence against childern are going to do it less when theres a robust market of leaglly accessable CSAM.

    It wont. it will instead create predator pipelines. It will take people with mild sexual disorders and histories of their own sexual assualts as childern and feed them CSAM. It will create more predators.

    It will allow for communities of pedophiles to exist openly, findable on google searchs and advertised on regular porn sites.

    Also the people who make AI generated CSAM are not going to be water marking it a AI genrated.

    They are going to make it as real as possible. it will be indistinguishable to the naked eye and thus allow for Actual CSAM to masquarade and AI generated.

    I could go on. But im not an expert on any of this.

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