I too, believe the best way to control a natural resource is to only allow the rich to use it. For they are truly better people. Always known for their consideration.
An “economy” climb is $60k. That is 10 years of saving $6k per year for a once in a lifetime vacation. That is totally achievable for someone making $100k a year that doesn’t let income creep put them in a stupid financial situation.
You have more of a point if that same person making $100k a year spends $120k on a “premium” climb, but that same person would let income creep make that trip less reasonably affordable.
How poor are the people here that you’re getting downvoted and even got a “shut up” for this comment? It’s really not a stretch to call a $60k expense a “once in a lifetime” expense.
How many people drive around in 80k vehicles that they “upgrade” every few years? How many people spend absolutely ridiculous amounts of money on designer brands, perfumes, watches, and shit? Sure, 60k is a lot of money for most people, but there’s a large number of people (at least in the western countries, in absolute numbers, not %) that could easily afford to spend 60k on something every 5-10 years if it fancies them, and an even larger number of people who could afford to spend 60k on something once in a lifetime.
Those people with $80k cars tend to lease, which can have tax advantages, but you are still paying $1k a month to rent a car that you put 20-30% down on.
That touches on that income creep issue as people increase their lifestyle expenses along with income and don’t understand how they are living paycheck to paycheck with no savings, retirement, investments, and can’t afford to have your midlife crisis on the world’s tallest peak.
How? Unless you live in Napal, it’s not cheap to get to. It also takes at least some amount of planning and skill. Far from the hardest climb out there, but you can’t be an idiot about it.
The remoteness alone is already limiting who can go there. El Capitan is less remote, but is a legendarily difficult climb, and that may get around the same number of people per year.
I just don’t understand why people even climb everest anymore, with all the tech nowadays it’s quite easy, and really just depends on weather if you die or not. I’ve seen some overweight elderly people successfully do it, some as old as 80.
Never said it was, I simply made what is called “wordplay” with your question. See, when you said “high,” you meant altitude, however by subverting the original meaning and turning it to “high” as in “on drugs,” I have made what is called “a joke” in English, “una broma” in spanish, or “шутка” in гопник. Thanks for coming to my lesson entitled “what is humor and what should I do about it,” in this next segment we’ll cover “what is laughter” and “how to at least appear that you understand humor so as not to look like a sociopath.”
They need to just haul a big trebuchet up there.Then they can just launch poop down the mountain in sealed containers with the poop trebuchet. Ideally you could have a few poop trebuchets in a line to launch em down one after another.
Have you ever heard about the guys who brought parachutes up Everest, and just glided back down?
Instead of a heavy trebuchet, you just redesign poop bags to have a little parachute attached to them. Then you release your poop to the winds… Who knows how far your poop might go?
They’re clearly not thinking this through. They all need to lug their frozen poo to the summit and pile it there, so they can stand on it when they take their selfie and declare that they’re at a higher peak than any previous summiters due to their poo pedestal.
The thing that makes Everest dangerous is the air pressure combined with everything else, that’s why it’s such a long slow ascent, you have to acclimatize so your lungs don’t implode.
In the summer the summit temperature is about the same as a bad Canadian prairie winter day
How much frozen human shit has that mountain accumulated since people started climbing it for fun? Can somebody do the math on that? I feel like it has potential for a really shitty trivia question. Like, for Shitty Jeopardy! or something. JFC, I am baked.
@FlyingSquid omg I didn't realize it was your post. Hi! Ok I'm gonna put the bowl down
Apparently the average UK adult defecates about 100g per day, and that's the first link that showed up so I'm going to go with the UK numbers in that one study. According to wikipedia there were 11,346 ascents as of July 2022. Assuming two weeks from base camp to summit and back, based on Tom Kilpatrick's article on The Manual, that means 1.4 kg of shit per climb for a total of almost 16 metric tonnes or 17.5 short tons
That number is definitely low, you eat more in the cold and with exertion. It is probably over double your number, that is a lot of doo-doo.
I imagine all the loss of snow is exposing decades of accumulated mountain dookie.
By 2100 they are estimating a 75% loss of snow/ice on the mountain, which means at 800 climbs per year(modern rate) by 2100 there will be over 186 metric tonnes of poopy on the mountain with very little snow to hide it. I don’t even think that number includes Sherpa scat.
It takes 2-3 weeks to get from base camp to camp 4. So thats at least 3-4 days between camps.
I know lemmy has a thing about not pooping for 3 days, but to maintain a 3-day bowel movement cycle for 2 weeks is a bit far fetched.
The final ascent from camp 4 to summit is 10-20 hours, plus descent. Normally done in a single stretch, but likely still gonna need a shit.
So, Im going to say everyone that goes up it is gonna shit on the mountain
Mounting piles of human poop are kicking up a stink on Mountain Everest, much to the annoyance of local authorities who are now instructing climbers they must bring their dirty business back to base camp.
So, even if they have a toilet, it isnt magically transporting the shit off the mountain.
Or, there are climbers without these magical toilets.
Or, there are enough climbers not removing their waste from everest for it to be causing a problem.
People clearly shit on everest.
Clearly, not everyone is removing their 2 weeks worth of waste
Years? Give me 8 good men, three months, and a little discretionary spending and I’ll have all the shit off that mountain. We’ll carry up the components to build a small trebuchet and launch platform, pieces at a time over several ascents, and once it’s built proceed to sling all the shit 350m off the side of the mountain. It’ll be easier to clean up once it’s collected at the base and people aren’t risking death just to get to the area it’s in.
For a real professional amount of money, we can airdrop the trebuchet materials with a heli and only make one trip up for construction and operation.
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